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Originally Posted by Shane-O  That sounds all well and good, but it isnt anywhere near that simple. the police did what they are trained to do, and that included tasering. The fact is that they DID defuse the situation without anyone getting hurt. I'll pose the question to you, have you tried to handcuff someone? how about someone who is resisting? You seem to think it is as easy as getting the cuffs out of your holster. He was resisting being cuffed, part of cuff training is to not fight the person as much as they used to. The suspect gets hurt, you get hurt and others around you get hurt. So you tell them that you will tase and or pepper spray them if they do not comply (and at that point they are getting cuffed), when warned and told what is about to happen, it is all up to you. His decision determined the outcome. So why do you think it is as easy as you posted? Because if you had experiance in these types of matters, you would understand what I am saying. |
It's hard for me to believe a tasering in where you still have vocal control and therefor some voluntary muscular control is that much worse than 5 cops lifting you off the ground and making body meet floor (floor, meet body). I also imagine it might be more pleasant than the huge state troopers putting the weight and hammer down to get cuffs on a failing noodle, once you get the spin on you might slip loose then the others have to grab you again. Then they tend to use the hurtsabit options
. If no one is hurt, it is so far better than the beat down option, even their keychains with the keys alternated rip you up. LA cops use to have friggin nunchakkas for crying out loud, we got a bit farther in life than that now.
I was maced before and it SUCKS completely, plus it's not very good in rooms.
I don't really think how cops take someone down as an arrest is as important as the actions behind the arrest.
So really I see the situation as an open forum in a private place. University Police, possibly familiar with this dude? hmmm? Likely had predispositions through some personal experience of this guy. Therefore they may have been more inclined to act in particular avenues with a preceeding reputation. If he was Kid Rock, would you be astonished if he cursed for instance?
He knowing that perhaps wanted all this as a publicity stunt to begin with, or was perceptive enough to quickly understand it as one a posteriori, to be used or enjoyed in some light afterward. Hell maybe it was dollar signs in his eyes after the burning tickle. Anyway was anything else important or of substance discussed before or beyond this event?
Personally I am saddened by a few things, we seem to be a society of the less tolerant, as well as inhabited by those pressing the same patience of the masses.
The concept of 'your time is up, leave or be arrested' is truth in a Spartan letter but not in an American spirit. Perhaps if you can bellow with the fevered passion of Nero as you scream will not leave and demand the truth (as you perceive it of course), pounding the podium with wild gesticulations, while your opponent quivers in silence across from you.
Well the opponent happened to be Kerry and cops acted in what they thought was a best interest and safety of both that figure and everyone else, quite possibly knowing this guy was some sort of trouble from last week in quad or at the house.
I don't think it's that cool they removed him to begin with, unless for a holder of the floor to say 'remove that man!'. Instead it was 'let him speak'?
This is certainly no Rodney King, this guy probably got laid the next night.