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Originally Posted by kidneythief  It seems that your just grabbing for air at this point Mar. |
I'd like to finish addressing this post.
I had to cut my previous reply short as I was on my way to work.
I have seen a lot of arguments thrown into the ring here about this event, what it meant, and how it was handled. Instead of addressing them I have made subtle contributions (the Tiananmen pic) which of course I did not believe was on the same level as this incident, but of course they do bear striking similarities.
Some people continue to insist that the arrest was justified because the boy went over his time. I tried to address this above. He wasn’t arrested because of some time limit, if he had spent his overage discussing how winnable Iraq is, and how smooth Mr. Kerry’s skin is, he would have been accommodated. So this argument is moot.
Some people say: “he knew the rules, and consented to them” I can guarantee you he did not consent to being tazed, in fact, he begged not to be.
Someone suggested that he had infringed on the ‘rights’ of others to have a turn on the Microphone. A cursory examination of the constitution doesn’t mention this right, it is not an infringement so much as an inconvenience.
One telling part of this incident is the police report: One officer says that the kid was saying asking about bl0wj0bs. Ever heard of an ink blot test? This is funny to me, I hear the kid talking about impeachment and election results, and documented historical issues regarding a previous president. It’s all how you look at things I suppose.
And again as to establishing a ‘persona’ here. I will not be made to feel unwelcome on this forum because I disagree about issues of law and justice. I do not disagree for the sake of disagreement; I do so because I have an opinion and choose to express it to add to the dialog, whether it is an attempt at humour or a genuine feeling or expression. Fortunately MCB was not founded to be a political or legal forum of a certain slant, or I would not fit in, as I barely do now. Please do not attempt to invalidate my arguments or the points I make by suggesting that they have to do with an attempt to construct some personality of disenfranchisement.
I have read and written papers on police and the excessive use of force. But I would not sit here and engage a loss prevention officer from Wal-Mart about how hard it is to cuff someone, because it really isn't the point.
Like everything else, no one is under any obligation to agree with me, but once in a while even Christian Nelson and I agree on an issue, and when that happens it serves to remind me that the differences really aren’t what is important. Even Shartley, who lord knows sees things from a different point of view than I do, or others do, will testify that these differences about this issue and that issue aren’t who we are, when he opens boxes of donated clothing and goods for his family.
DOn't presume too much based on what you see in one place my friend, you may run into me one day and end up liking me quite a bit.