I have to agree with you guys on WTF product. I started using WTF products maybe 3 or so years ago with the 4x50rd chest rig. Used that setup for a good 1 1/2 years, switched over to just the double 50rd molle pod pack cliped onto a belt. My lastest setup is a stiff battle belt and suspenders (not wtf) and I can interchange WTF packs on the molle setup in the back. I recentely got the 160rd pack and 9 tube pack so I can play everything on the same set up. I got the 160rd ones to eventually replace the Dye ones I use now that some of the seams and velcro are busting out already from under a years use. I have never had a seam open on any of my WTF products and I'm pretty hard on my gear. I think it's worth the little extra for a quality USA made product.