Empire was actually the ones I spoke with and I don't recall their exact words. I posted a direct quote in the empire section on mcb. but they told me basically that they will never make a first strike mag kit for the trracer or any of their guns because they don't make the first strike rounds. So sounds to me like since Kee doesn't make any money from the fsr sales then they don't want to take part in it. I said than why did you make a first strike compatible breech?