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Originally Posted by Mr. Furious  So it's OK to be sneaky/deceptive and infiltrate the enemy to shoot them in the back in a scenario but a Dead Man's Walk is a cardinal sin on the speedball field? Seems to me to be 6 of one and a half dozen of the other.
I'll never understand the double standards paintball players live with and often embrace.
Two different games..as such different rules.
Anyway..IMHO the ref's job is to pull eliminated players. Whether it be from friendly fire or a spy the player is eliminated just the same. Keeping it "quiet" seems to be helping the spy and thereby aiding the spy's team. A ref should do the same job the same way no matter what the circumstances or he could be accused of showing favoritism. |
True it is the ref's job to pull eliminated players but in Scenario Games a big part of our time is devoted to player safety also. As far as "helping" on the field we are as I often tell other ref's "don't exist" and "are not there". Our place isn't to interfere with the game but to make sure that other people do as they are supposed to.
"But the player does have the right to yell "hit" or "out" at the top of his lungs, once he is out."
If your shot or eliminated by a non silent means this is true but with "knife rules" or with "barrel tags" that isn't the case.
It is like if someone slit your throat would you be able to shout out "hey someone just slit my throat"?? The basic rule is dead men don't talk once your out keep your mouth shut! Also it is common courtesy if you get barrel tagged you quietly turn and walk away with out shouting "I'm out" the reason is some one just put a bunch of time effort into that move and if you were to shout out that would alert your team members to the fact they were present and most likely get them lit-up in the process.
Here is a quote from the Viper Rules on Barrel Tags.
Barrel-tagging: You may "barrel-tag" players and eliminate them without shooting. The barrel must be at least 8 inches long, and in plain sight (not hidden up your sleeve) and you must immediately say, "Barrel tag!" when you touch them with it. Barrel-tagged players are immediately eliminated and are to walk away quietly. Failure to do so will result in a judge punch. After you have exited the area you may declare that you are eliminated as you continue to your hospital or an exit. Barrel tagged players cannot be healed by medics. No barrel tags are allowed during the "Dinner Battle" or "Final Battle."