[Clearush]

the only point I've been trying to make and your obviouly to slow to recognize is over bored cocker barrels have serious roll out issues now you may have interjected your own though pattern to argue with your self or something or I may not have been clear enough in what I was actualy addressing but you have been trolling every single poster in this thread mostly on things we weren't even addressing.

so last statement - detents in closed bolt markers prevent double feeding they do not prevent roll outs! the only thing in a closed bolt marker that will prevent roll outs are palmer wedgits and a barrel matched to the paint.

so your wrong about closed bolt markers ok and I can go in my back yard and prove the roll outs day in and day out to my hearts content and all the posting from AO and Palmer (which I have read and don't particularly disagree with) had nothing at all to do with the issue I was addresing I am sorry if my posts were to vauge or your just to slow to understand what I was talking about.