Trigger discussion

TrracerAce · 01-26-2007, 11:12 PM

Just messing around with my Mag, which has the double-trigger Dye frame. I can walk out strings of rapid fire that can only be matched by those with ultra-light electronic triggers once I've locked down the sweet spot.

Sadly, as is the case with most Mag noobs, I've been known to short-stroke it in the heat of the moment. This has cost me my share of opportunities and is a source of mild annoyance in what is otherwise my absolute favorite marker.

So here I am looking for suggestions. I'm in the market for another, more modern trigger frame once I've got the funds up. What's out there for a guy like me who loves everything about Mags but the old trigger setup?

doicomehereoften · 01-27-2007, 12:28 AM

You can keep the same grip, but do a pneu-Mag conversion. Those are great. Shortens & lightens the stroke.

James Blond · 01-27-2007, 04:25 PM

Yeah, rainmain could do a pneu mag conversion for you or a cheaper alternative would be to buy an AGD intelliframe. They are very nice frames and I never shortstroked when I had mine. They come in either a blade syle trigger or the standard 2x finger style.

AGDRetro · 01-27-2007, 05:17 PM

Practice. I shot mech Cockers for years, and am use to making a full trigger pull, but still short stroked a bit when I switched to the Mag. I have an RPG Trigger & Intelliframe and with practice I haven't had any trouble for a good while now...

BigEvil · 01-30-2007, 07:52 AM

What mag set up do you have? Are you using a stock on/off or the ULT? Big difference.

Also, if you are thinking of going Pnuemag.. talk to Pnuemagger on AO. He does the best conversions by far.

Lenny · 01-30-2007, 12:28 PM

Big Evil, Pneumagger has an MCB account now, so he can be reached here.

TrracerAce · 01-31-2007, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigEvil

What mag set up do you have? Are you using a stock on/off or the ULT? Big difference.

Stock. It's what you'd call a FrankenMag, cobbled together from parts purchased both from local players and dealers, and from this site.

I might look into either a pneumatic conversion or an intelliframe.

BigEvil · 02-01-2007, 11:01 AM

The intelliframe is one of the nicest mech frames available, always a good choice.

If you have an Xvalve or Emag valve.. consider the ULT. It makes the trigger almost walkable. The Pmag conversions are nice if done properly. Pneumagger has done so many of them he knows his stuff well.

In your post about short stroking, you didnt mention if you have the lvl10?

Rudisill · 02-01-2007, 12:48 PM

You ought to look into the sear mod that Lukes customs does. It's super cheap and it makes it hard to short stroke

TrracerAce · 02-02-2007, 01:10 AM

Nope, no Level 10 bolt yet, and the valve is the venerable old ANS Phase II Reactor. I got the whole shebang at a fair price. The bolt is on the list of upgrades, after the new trigger frame. I don't chop much aside from those aforementioned short stroked cycles so it's on the list of "things that would be nice to have" instead of "things the marker needs".

On another note, I know some of you have the Benchmark frame with the push-pin "safety" that you pull out for the trigger to have its full range of motion. Is it normal to be able to cycle the marker with this pushed in? As in the marker will cycle before the trigger strikes the pin and is blocked from moving further. It's why I've been able to walk my trigger so far and has been pretty convenient, but is it supposed to do that?

01-26-2007, 11:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
TrracerAce Active Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 238	Trigger discussion Just messing around with my Mag, which has the double-trigger Dye frame. I can walk out strings of rapid fire that can only be matched by those with ultra-light electronic triggers once I've locked down the sweet spot. Sadly, as is the case with most Mag noobs, I've been known to short-stroke it in the heat of the moment. This has cost me my share of opportunities and is a source of mild annoyance in what is otherwise my absolute favorite marker. So here I am looking for suggestions. I'm in the market for another, more modern trigger frame once I've got the funds up. What's out there for a guy like me who loves everything about Mags but the old trigger setup?

01-27-2007, 12:28 AM	#2 (permalink)
doicomehereoften Rec Poster Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Posts: 95	You can keep the same grip, but do a pneu-Mag conversion. Those are great. Shortens & lightens the stroke. __________________ I'm really not good at writing signatures. I mean, what is it that you're really trying to do? Write something that somebody's actually going to remember, or even read? Yeah right! Nobody ever actually reads these things.

01-27-2007, 04:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
James Blond Active Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 153	Yeah, rainmain could do a pneu mag conversion for you or a cheaper alternative would be to buy an AGD intelliframe. They are very nice frames and I never shortstroked when I had mine. They come in either a blade syle trigger or the standard 2x finger style. __________________ The Man's Prayer: "I am a man, but I can change, if I have to, I guess."

01-27-2007, 05:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
AGDRetro MCB Supporter Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lancaster, PA Posts: 388	Practice. I shot mech Cockers for years, and am use to making a full trigger pull, but still short stroked a bit when I switched to the Mag. I have an RPG Trigger & Intelliframe and with practice I haven't had any trouble for a good while now... __________________ Steve Shuey \| Teams Crimson Reign & Amish Mafia\| AGD Enthusiast MCB Feedback \| AO Feedback

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01-30-2007, 07:52 AM	#5 (permalink)
BigEvil MCB Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In my own little world Posts: 291	What mag set up do you have? Are you using a stock on/off or the ULT? Big difference. Also, if you are thinking of going Pnuemag.. talk to Pnuemagger on AO. He does the best conversions by far.

02-01-2007, 11:01 AM	#8 (permalink)
BigEvil MCB Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In my own little world Posts: 291	The intelliframe is one of the nicest mech frames available, always a good choice. If you have an Xvalve or Emag valve.. consider the ULT. It makes the trigger almost walkable. The Pmag conversions are nice if done properly. Pneumagger has done so many of them he knows his stuff well. In your post about short stroking, you didnt mention if you have the lvl10?

02-01-2007, 12:48 PM	#9 (permalink)
Rudisill Active Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 290	You ought to look into the sear mod that Lukes customs does. It's super cheap and it makes it hard to short stroke

02-02-2007, 01:10 AM	#10 (permalink)
TrracerAce Active Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 238	Nope, no Level 10 bolt yet, and the valve is the venerable old ANS Phase II Reactor. I got the whole shebang at a fair price. The bolt is on the list of upgrades, after the new trigger frame. I don't chop much aside from those aforementioned short stroked cycles so it's on the list of "things that would be nice to have" instead of "things the marker needs". On another note, I know some of you have the Benchmark frame with the push-pin "safety" that you pull out for the trigger to have its full range of motion. Is it normal to be able to cycle the marker with this pushed in? As in the marker will cycle before the trigger strikes the pin and is blocked from moving further. It's why I've been able to walk my trigger so far and has been pretty convenient, but is it supposed to do that?