automag help....

randall ace · 03-29-2010, 04:14 PM

hi guys ..... took my new-to-me automag 68 classic out for its first round today , and it was shooting fine for the first hour ( running a 68/3000 pure energy compressed air tank, and marbilizer paint) , then i heard a change in the sound tone ,( went from the ping , to a pop? ) and i started experiencing some problems ( shootdown then bolt stick - had that backwards , sorry) i immediatly stopped using it and switched to my back-up timmy ....any ideas ?

secretweaponevan · 03-29-2010, 05:32 PM

What valve are you running?
What bolt are you running?
Did you put a few drops of oil in the ASA before play today?

Can you post pics?

randall ace · 03-29-2010, 05:37 PM

68 automag classic valve ....dont know anout bolt, but looks like the venturi that ihave in my spyder....affirmative on the oil in asa ....

secretweaponevan · 03-29-2010, 05:44 PM

Is it leaking down the barrel?

Bolt stick is usually caused by too short a spacer and/or too tight of a field strip screw.

It can also be caused by aftermarket products.

Can you post pics of your setup?

randall ace · 03-29-2010, 05:50 PM

Ando · 03-30-2010, 10:25 AM

I know everyone says to put the oil in the asa but if you only put 2-3 drops. By the time it reaches your valve it pretty much thinned out after going through everything. Best place to put the oil is at the QD of the valve.

If it was shooting fine one sec and all of the sudden not. With out any other info at hand, I'd have to say it's oil. Fill your QD up and shoot it out with the barrel off.

With out any other info. It's kind of hard to tell whats up with it. Have you cked for debris in the valve? Also some ASA on/off's are too long for some tanks. If the tanks pin is pushed to far inside it will restrict the air flow and also cause what your experiencing.

Robertsr · 03-30-2010, 11:15 AM

If you went all hour on the tank with no refills that may be your issue as well. Mags start to have problems when the tank pressure falls below 800 or so.

maninblack · 03-30-2010, 11:58 AM

^That was my first thought too^

randall ace · 03-30-2010, 08:12 PM

tank still has 1500 in it ..... i put a bob long 1200 gauge on my cp on/off asa, it reads 850 when aired up.....

rudz · 03-30-2010, 08:19 PM

check your powertube spacer, if its a lvl 7, it should be a 220 spacer

If its a lvl 10, I can walk you through that too

Your thumb screw should only be finger tight, make sure the front frame screw is tightened and check for any debris inside the marker

03-29-2010, 04:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
randall ace BACK TO WORK !!! Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: columbus, ohio	automag help.... hi guys ..... took my new-to-me automag 68 classic out for its first round today , and it was shooting fine for the first hour ( running a 68/3000 pure energy compressed air tank, and marbilizer paint) , then i heard a change in the sound tone ,( went from the ping , to a pop? ) and i started experiencing some problems ( shootdown then bolt stick - had that backwards , sorry) i immediatly stopped using it and switched to my back-up timmy ....any ideas ? __________________ NOW RETIRED FROM PLAYING - BUT STILL BUILDING COOL MARKERS ** i maintain 3rd shift hours so if i dont respond right away during the day - ya know why my feedback : http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/f...-feedback.html http://www.pbnation.com/feedback.php?u=488994

03-29-2010, 05:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
secretweaponevan Marathoner Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pocono Lake, PA	What valve are you running? What bolt are you running? Did you put a few drops of oil in the ASA before play today? Can you post pics? __________________ "You don't use science to show that you're right, you use science to become right." -xkcd 701 feedback

03-29-2010, 05:37 PM	#3 (permalink)
randall ace BACK TO WORK !!! Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: columbus, ohio	68 automag classic valve ....dont know anout bolt, but looks like the venturi that ihave in my spyder....affirmative on the oil in asa .... __________________ NOW RETIRED FROM PLAYING - BUT STILL BUILDING COOL MARKERS ** i maintain 3rd shift hours so if i dont respond right away during the day - ya know why my feedback : http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/f...-feedback.html http://www.pbnation.com/feedback.php?u=488994

03-29-2010, 05:44 PM	#4 (permalink)
secretweaponevan Marathoner Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pocono Lake, PA	Is it leaking down the barrel? Bolt stick is usually caused by too short a spacer and/or too tight of a field strip screw. It can also be caused by aftermarket products. Can you post pics of your setup? __________________ "You don't use science to show that you're right, you use science to become right." -xkcd 701 feedback

03-29-2010, 05:50 PM	#5 (permalink)
randall ace BACK TO WORK !!! Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: columbus, ohio	__________________ NOW RETIRED FROM PLAYING - BUT STILL BUILDING COOL MARKERS ** i maintain 3rd shift hours so if i dont respond right away during the day - ya know why my feedback : http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/f...-feedback.html http://www.pbnation.com/feedback.php?u=488994

03-30-2010, 10:25 AM	#6 (permalink)
Ando Formerly known as DMex Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Glen Burnie, MD.	I know everyone says to put the oil in the asa but if you only put 2-3 drops. By the time it reaches your valve it pretty much thinned out after going through everything. Best place to put the oil is at the QD of the valve. If it was shooting fine one sec and all of the sudden not. With out any other info at hand, I'd have to say it's oil. Fill your QD up and shoot it out with the barrel off. With out any other info. It's kind of hard to tell whats up with it. Have you cked for debris in the valve? Also some ASA on/off's are too long for some tanks. If the tanks pin is pushed to far inside it will restrict the air flow and also cause what your experiencing. Last edited by Ando; 03-30-2010 at 10:29 AM.

03-30-2010, 11:15 AM	#7 (permalink)
Robertsr King of the OFG Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Waynesboro, VA	If you went all hour on the tank with no refills that may be your issue as well. Mags start to have problems when the tank pressure falls below 800 or so. __________________ MicroMags 'R Us FEEDBACK

03-30-2010, 11:58 AM	#8 (permalink)
maninblack Active Member Join Date: May 2008	^That was my first thought too^

03-30-2010, 08:12 PM	#9 (permalink)
randall ace BACK TO WORK !!! Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: columbus, ohio	tank still has 1500 in it ..... i put a bob long 1200 gauge on my cp on/off asa, it reads 850 when aired up..... __________________ NOW RETIRED FROM PLAYING - BUT STILL BUILDING COOL MARKERS ** i maintain 3rd shift hours so if i dont respond right away during the day - ya know why my feedback : http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/f...-feedback.html http://www.pbnation.com/feedback.php?u=488994

03-30-2010, 08:19 PM	#10 (permalink)
rudz BEO MAFIA Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: SoCal Riverside County	check your powertube spacer, if its a lvl 7, it should be a 220 spacer If its a lvl 10, I can walk you through that too Your thumb screw should only be finger tight, make sure the front frame screw is tightened and check for any debris inside the marker __________________ SOMETIMES ITS GOOD TO BE EVIL BEO MAFIA

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