Automag Question

Booster · 06-16-2010, 01:13 AM

Hello MC Browners,

I am Booster. Recently, I have had the pleasure of acquiring an Automag. It is used and had a few minor problems, but nothing I couldn't recognize and take care of.

But there was one minor problem that I couldn't be helped on with my GoogleFu. When I removed the ASA from the grip frame, I noticed it only had one screw. I figured the screw was lost. Well, I tried to screw in a screw into the empy hole and it wouldn't go.

I remove the grip so that I can inspect it, expecting it to be stripped out. It took this a little while to sink in, but what I found was that apparently, I am missing some sort of thread adapter. The socket that has threads appears to have some sort of steel insert, while the other does not. I suppose this is my noobness with the Automag, but I've never seen this before.

My first option is to retap the aluminum frame and use a bigger screw, but does anyone know about these little inserts? If so, where can they be found and what is the proper name for them?

Thanks in advance.

secretweaponevan · 06-16-2010, 02:49 AM

It sounds like the holes were stripped and then helicoiled.
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Booster · 06-16-2010, 03:00 AM

HA!! I knew I would find the answer here...even with the freaky avatar. Thanks.

Stripes · 06-16-2010, 03:05 AM

before you go helicoiling anything, can you get pictures
it sounds like you're expecting there to be threads in the rail for the vert ASA...

Booster · 06-16-2010, 03:24 AM

No, the vert ASA is okay. This is the bottomline ASA that connects to the grip frame (the part that houses the trigger, not the air through grip). These helicoil thingies look just like the piece that's in the grip frame that held the bottomline in place.

spawnsharks · 06-16-2010, 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stripes

before you go helicoiling anything, can you get pictures
it sounds like you're expecting there to be threads in the rail for the vert ASA...

This is what came to mind as well. the valve should be threaded where the rear of the rail attaches, and the grip (or reg, or vert ASA) attaches with a screw that passes through the rail and threads into the front ASA (or grip, whichever you have there.. although the front grip is often threaded to fit in the front ASA)

My advice is also to post pics so we can help! Don't helicoil anything before finding out for sure.

Ando · 06-16-2010, 03:44 AM

Sound like you have a CF frame and one of your nuts are missing.

Any nut small enough to fit inside the slot will do the job. I think it's a 8-32 or 10-32 nut.

Don't remember.

Booster · 06-16-2010, 04:31 AM

Sorry, I should have stated. It's an aluminum RT frame mounted on the classic rail and body. I looked at putting a nut in it, but it just won't work that way. The hole that is stripped out is the one in the back of the grip frame. If it would have been the one in the front, I could have drilled the hole to the hollow portion of the frame and added a nut.

Ando · 06-16-2010, 09:57 AM

What frame is it?

Spider! · 06-16-2010, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Booster

HA!! I knew I would find the answer here...even with the freaky avatar. Thanks.

He's a corn-on-the-cob eating champion.

SWE, can you carb-load with corn?

06-16-2010, 01:13 AM	#1 (permalink)
Booster Newbie Join Date: Jun 2010	Automag Question Hello MC Browners, I am Booster. Recently, I have had the pleasure of acquiring an Automag. It is used and had a few minor problems, but nothing I couldn't recognize and take care of. But there was one minor problem that I couldn't be helped on with my GoogleFu. When I removed the ASA from the grip frame, I noticed it only had one screw. I figured the screw was lost. Well, I tried to screw in a screw into the empy hole and it wouldn't go. I remove the grip so that I can inspect it, expecting it to be stripped out. It took this a little while to sink in, but what I found was that apparently, I am missing some sort of thread adapter. The socket that has threads appears to have some sort of steel insert, while the other does not. I suppose this is my noobness with the Automag, but I've never seen this before. My first option is to retap the aluminum frame and use a bigger screw, but does anyone know about these little inserts? If so, where can they be found and what is the proper name for them? Thanks in advance.

06-16-2010, 02:49 AM	#2 (permalink)
secretweaponevan Marathoner Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pocono Lake, PA	It sounds like the holes were stripped and then helicoiled. Heli-Coil ( HeliCoil Inserts ) Helicoils Screw Thread Inserts \| Emhart.com __________________ "You don't use science to show that you're right, you use science to become right." -xkcd 701 feedback

06-16-2010, 03:24 AM	#5 (permalink)
Booster Newbie Join Date: Jun 2010	No, the vert ASA is okay. This is the bottomline ASA that connects to the grip frame (the part that houses the trigger, not the air through grip). These helicoil thingies look just like the piece that's in the grip frame that held the bottomline in place. Last edited by Booster; 06-16-2010 at 03:30 AM.

06-16-2010, 03:44 AM	#7 (permalink)
Ando Formerly known as DMex Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Glen Burnie, MD.	Sound like you have a CF frame and one of your nuts are missing. Any nut small enough to fit inside the slot will do the job. I think it's a 8-32 or 10-32 nut. Don't remember. __________________ WTB NOXX Tac1 Springfeed and Javelin Twister Barrel...PM Me!!!

06-16-2010, 09:57 AM	#9 (permalink)
Ando Formerly known as DMex Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Glen Burnie, MD.	What frame is it? __________________ WTB NOXX Tac1 Springfeed and Javelin Twister Barrel...PM Me!!!

06-16-2010, 03:00 AM	#3 (permalink)
Booster Newbie Join Date: Jun 2010	HA!! I knew I would find the answer here...even with the freaky avatar. Thanks.

06-16-2010, 04:31 AM	#8 (permalink)
Booster Newbie Join Date: Jun 2010	Sorry, I should have stated. It's an aluminum RT frame mounted on the classic rail and body. I looked at putting a nut in it, but it just won't work that way. The hole that is stripped out is the one in the back of the grip frame. If it would have been the one in the front, I could have drilled the hole to the hollow portion of the frame and added a nut.

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