lvl x trouble.

TonsOfFun · 11-20-2010, 12:07 PM

First I apologize for not searching but Im at my field I have he smallest carrier and the longest spring. This has produced the least amount of air leaking down the barrel. But its still leaking. Any suggestions?

Twilight · 11-20-2010, 12:13 PM

smallest carrier you say?
Does it leak when you hold the trigger?

Have you added enough oil? the carrier o-ring might just be dry.
oh, and make sure you didn't put the carrier in backwards... I've done that before

the inner white o-ring should face the rear of the valve.

otherwise, you might just need a new carrier inner-oring.. which of course would require some break-in. Is this a new o-ring? Might just need oil and a bunch of dry-firing to break-in.

TonsOfFun · 11-20-2010, 07:19 PM

Its a used kit, so its most likely the oring is bad. Im gonna air it up tommorow and work on it, if i dont get results, im gonna order some orings. Thanks for the quick response!

secretweaponevan · 11-20-2010, 07:58 PM

Quick tuning instructions:

Remove all LVL 10 shims.
Pick 1 carrier o-ring and stick with it.
Use oil.
Use #2 carrier (2 lines, no dots, or largest one you have).
Shoot 1000 shots to break in o-ring.
Move broken-in o-ring to largest carrier that doesn't leak.
Use red spring for 285 fps. Use longer spring for higher velocity or to be more gentle (fragile paint), shorter spring for lower velocity or to be less gentle (thicker shell).
If bolt sticks after encountering a jam, add a shim.

TonsOfFun · 11-20-2010, 11:13 PM

How do you tell size of carriers? Is it the more grooves there are the smaller it is?

secretweaponevan · 11-20-2010, 11:52 PM

A groove on the side of the carrier indicates a full size. A dot (there will be several around the perimiter, but only 1 counts) indicates a half size.
Lower is smaller.

Robertsr has a picture of the size chart, but I can't seem to find it at the moment.

Ando · 11-21-2010, 11:51 AM

secretweaponevan · 11-21-2010, 12:30 PM

Ando to the rescue.

Thanks Ando.

TonsOfFun · 11-22-2010, 01:30 PM

Thanks a bunch guys, Im gonna test it out this week and if i cannot get my current orings to work then im gonna order some new ones.

Twilight · 11-22-2010, 01:36 PM

when you swap carriers be sure to use the same carrier o-ring (unless you know for sure that the o-ring is shot)

11-20-2010, 12:13 PM	#2 (permalink)
Twilight BEO-Mafia Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Rhode Island	smallest carrier you say? Does it leak when you hold the trigger? Have you added enough oil? the carrier o-ring might just be dry. oh, and make sure you didn't put the carrier in backwards... I've done that before the inner white o-ring should face the rear of the valve. otherwise, you might just need a new carrier inner-oring.. which of course would require some break-in. Is this a new o-ring? Might just need oil and a bunch of dry-firing to break-in. __________________ Feedback: MCB Feedback Automags Online Feedback BigEvilOnline Feedback eBay Feedback

11-20-2010, 07:58 PM	#4 (permalink)
secretweaponevan Marathoner Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pocono Lake, PA	Quick tuning instructions: Remove all LVL 10 shims. Pick 1 carrier o-ring and stick with it. Use oil. Use #2 carrier (2 lines, no dots, or largest one you have). Shoot 1000 shots to break in o-ring. Move broken-in o-ring to largest carrier that doesn't leak. Use red spring for 285 fps. Use longer spring for higher velocity or to be more gentle (fragile paint), shorter spring for lower velocity or to be less gentle (thicker shell). If bolt sticks after encountering a jam, add a shim. __________________ "You don't use science to show that you're right, you use science to become right." -xkcd 701 feedback

11-20-2010, 11:52 PM	#6 (permalink)
secretweaponevan Marathoner Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pocono Lake, PA	A groove on the side of the carrier indicates a full size. A dot (there will be several around the perimiter, but only 1 counts) indicates a half size. Lower is smaller. Robertsr has a picture of the size chart, but I can't seem to find it at the moment. __________________ "You don't use science to show that you're right, you use science to become right." -xkcd 701 feedback

11-21-2010, 11:51 AM	#7 (permalink)
Ando Formerly known as DMex Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Glen Burnie, MD.	__________________ WTB NOXX Tac1 Springfeed and Javelin Twister Barrel...PM Me!!!

11-21-2010, 12:30 PM	#8 (permalink)
secretweaponevan Marathoner Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pocono Lake, PA	Ando to the rescue. Thanks Ando. __________________ "You don't use science to show that you're right, you use science to become right." -xkcd 701 feedback

11-22-2010, 01:36 PM	#10 (permalink)
Twilight BEO-Mafia Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Rhode Island	when you swap carriers be sure to use the same carrier o-ring (unless you know for sure that the o-ring is shot) __________________ Feedback: MCB Feedback Automags Online Feedback BigEvilOnline Feedback eBay Feedback

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