so i still don't have an rt on/off

akagunner · 01-11-2012, 12:33 PM

I listed some wtb's on here and ao but no one's offered as of yet. I looked up on agd's store and see that there is an rt pin. Would i only need to replace my pin in the on/off (minimag valve) to obtain a lighter trigger pull? Also, will this cause an rt effect on my marker? I don't have an adjustable tank reg so that may not be an issue anyway. I'm a mag noob, so any advice or suggestions is appreciated.

dukie · 01-11-2012, 12:35 PM

No you need to replace the entire on/off. You should be able to purchase the entire rt 0n/off somewhere on the site.

EDIT: there they are -

http://store.airgundesignsusa.com/in...&categoryID=23

It will not give you an rt effect, the minimag doesn't work the same way as an rt valve.

bpsimpson22 · 01-11-2012, 12:59 PM

I got a new one for $25 shipped from RogueFactor here:

RT On/Off Special - PB Legion

CJOttawa · 01-11-2012, 01:04 PM

In my experience, the RT on-off doesn't make much difference in trigger pull on the Classic Valve. I think it's mostly placebo effect.

akagunner · 01-11-2012, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bpsimpson22

I got a new one for $25 shipped from RogueFactor here:

RT On/Off Special - PB Legion

Did it lighten the pull for you? Cjottawa seems to have his doubts.

Spider! · 01-11-2012, 01:55 PM

The RT pin has about 50% less area exposed to valve pressure, so the force is that much less. If you can't feel that, you have a lot of friction lurking around the sear contact surfaces.

You can polish the sear where the on/off pin rides and keep your sear pin clean and lubed. You can lightly polish the edge of the bolt where the sear rides, especially if it has marks, but don't change the shape.

akagunner · 01-11-2012, 02:33 PM

thanks, spider. I guess i'll end up picking up a new one off the links above. Wouldn't a guy like you have such an item laying around?

Spider! · 01-11-2012, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akagunner

thanks, spider. I guess i'll end up picking up a new one off the links above. Wouldn't a guy like you have such an item laying around?

They don't wear out (generally) and fit almost every valve AGD made, so you have to lose it or tear it up yourself to need a new one.

I have heard of pins getting broken, but you usually have to get something in there sideways since the pin is in compression with a little lateral force from the sear hump, front-to-back.

You can make one from a classic with a lathe, if you have it all on hand (like the little o-ring). Otherwise they are easier to order.

Justus · 01-11-2012, 02:58 PM

I swapped a classic on/off for a RT on/off in my Minimag. I definitely felt the difference.

akagunner · 01-11-2012, 03:33 PM

thanks for the input guys. I'll be putting my order in then. Rogue's got them on pblegion.

01-11-2012, 12:33 PM	#1 (permalink)
akagunner Rec Poster Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: florida	so i still don't have an rt on/off I listed some wtb's on here and ao but no one's offered as of yet. I looked up on agd's store and see that there is an rt pin. Would i only need to replace my pin in the on/off (minimag valve) to obtain a lighter trigger pull? Also, will this cause an rt effect on my marker? I don't have an adjustable tank reg so that may not be an issue anyway. I'm a mag noob, so any advice or suggestions is appreciated. __________________ MCB Feedback:http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/f...-feedback.html

01-11-2012, 12:35 PM	#2 (permalink)
dukie more gooder Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Kitchener, Ontario	No you need to replace the entire on/off. You should be able to purchase the entire rt 0n/off somewhere on the site. EDIT: there they are - http://store.airgundesignsusa.com/in...&categoryID=23 It will not give you an rt effect, the minimag doesn't work the same way as an rt valve. __________________ The 5Th Run DSG Sales Thread DRV's in stock DSP frames in stock My Feedback

01-11-2012, 12:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
bpsimpson22 Active Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: CA	I got a new one for $25 shipped from RogueFactor here: RT On/Off Special - PB Legion __________________ MCB Feedback Automags.org Feedback eBay Feedback

01-11-2012, 01:04 PM	#4 (permalink)
CJOttawa Immune to sales tactics. Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Canada's National Capital	In my experience, the RT on-off doesn't make much difference in trigger pull on the Classic Valve. I think it's mostly placebo effect. Last edited by CJOttawa; 01-15-2012 at 01:52 PM.

01-11-2012, 01:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
Spider! MCB Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Houston, TX	The RT pin has about 50% less area exposed to valve pressure, so the force is that much less. If you can't feel that, you have a lot of friction lurking around the sear contact surfaces. You can polish the sear where the on/off pin rides and keep your sear pin clean and lubed. You can lightly polish the edge of the bolt where the sear rides, especially if it has marks, but don't change the shape. __________________ My Feedback

01-11-2012, 02:33 PM	#7 (permalink)
akagunner Rec Poster Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: florida	thanks, spider. I guess i'll end up picking up a new one off the links above. Wouldn't a guy like you have such an item laying around? __________________ MCB Feedback:http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/f...-feedback.html

01-11-2012, 02:58 PM	#9 (permalink)
Justus E-Tac Operator = Join Date: Apr 2010	I swapped a classic on/off for a RT on/off in my Minimag. I definitely felt the difference. __________________ My Feedback

01-11-2012, 03:33 PM	#10 (permalink)
akagunner Rec Poster Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: florida	thanks for the input guys. I'll be putting my order in then. Rogue's got them on pblegion. __________________ MCB Feedback:http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/f...-feedback.html

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