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Old 02-19-2012, 08:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The Mag Noob and the Mystery of the RPG Frame

Alright you meddling Hardy Boys (and Mag experts):

I have a "new" Mag: I bought it four years ago from AGD, but haven't used it in that time (sad, I know). Just aired it up today with the intelliframe on it and it worked like a dream. It had been chuffing some, but with some oil in the ASA, problem solved.

Same exact set up, but I swapped the intelliframe for an RPG Triton frame. And with the Triton frame on, it chuffed, coughed, leaked down the barrel and had trouble resetting.

Here are the specs of all the stuff I used on the gun:
X-valve
warp left feed ULE body
proteam warp feed adapter
Q-loader
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14" Deadlywind barrel, steel insert
AM/MM Rail
Adjustable NitroDuck tank reg with the 1000psi piston in it
Deadly Wind on/off ASA

Any help/suggestions would be much appreciated.
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Old 02-19-2012, 08:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
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how about loosen the frame that hold the screw onto the body a little bit?
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Old 02-19-2012, 08:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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yup. my bet is that the rear frame screw is too tight.
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Chances are you over-tightened the quick strip screw that holds the valve in. Should be finger tight at most, don't torque it down. Otherwise things won't line up right and you'll get bolt stick.
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Old 02-19-2012, 09:20 PM   #5 (permalink)
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yeah, I loosened the rear thumb screw, but I'll try adjusting it a bit more tomorrow. I also noticed that the radius of the RPG frame right where the rear screw hits seems slightly different than on the intelliframe. Hopefully getting the correct tension on the screw will solve the problem. thanks guys
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Old 02-19-2012, 09:54 PM   #6 (permalink)
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pics? different how?
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Old 02-19-2012, 10:16 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I was only judging by eye, and I know RPG products are supposed to be to AGD spec, but the frame screw didn't sit as flat or as snug against the RPG frame. The radius on the RPG frame seemed more "rounded" than the ADG frame. It could just have been in my head.

I doubt the difference will be detectable in pictures at all, as it was hard to see, even in person (especially hard to see in pics if it was all in my head). But I will post up some pics of the whole gun for your viewing pleasure tomorrow.
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You may need to adjust your trigger rod. If you're not getting a full engagement of the on/off it could cause that kind of problem.
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Old 02-20-2012, 09:14 AM   #9 (permalink)
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did you make sure not to lose the rail bushing when swapping frames? that will cause all sorts of weird problems if it's missing.

I'd advise NOT messing with the trigger rod on the sear. If it was out of spec, you would have had problems with the intelliframe too.
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I'd advise NOT messing with the trigger rod on the sear. If it was out of spec, you would have had problems with the intelliframe too.
Sometimes other frames and their triggers have shorter or longer trigger throws. You just need to look for the 1/32" to 1/16" gap behind the trigger when the marker is aired up. Let the trigger fall forward or push it lightly forward and look for the gap. No gap would be similar to the problem you describe.

The rail bushing is always worth checking, at least you'll know you haven't lost it. They're mean because the marker can work at first, then go crazy.
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