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Old 05-07-2012, 08:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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X-valve - ULT help

Alright guys, I have got a mag problem I cannot seem to fix and I need some outside help.

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92/4.5k Ninja 850psi output

OK SO... I got this tac one with a slight leak down the barrel... no big deal, swap out a carrier to a smaller size right? Nope.
I put an RT on off back into the gun to tune the LVL 10, one thing at a time. Unfortunately, when I try to tune with the RT on-off, it will RT 3-4 paintballs, basically as it should, BUT when the LVL10 chuffs on a ball as it should, it wont return. I have tried all carriers (1.5 down to 0) that don't leak and put shims in 1 by 1 each until it would leak. I cannot get the bolt to return without my help.
Now, I got fed up, put the ULT back in because this wasn't an issue with that. When I put the ULT in, I get a leak by the trigger rod. I have approximately a millimeter or so between the rod and the trigger itself when gassed up. It is just a hiss, so I replaced the outside O-rings on the ULT (top and bottom) and no avail. Already lubed each and every O-ring and always use a few drops when I start using the gun. With both the RT ON-OFF and the ULT the gas immediately shuts off when I hold the trigger so the ON-OFF assembly itself is working great.
Because of the location of the leak I am assuming I've got something going on in the ON-OFF location, but I am at a loss after replacing all these O-rings. I have played with the tension of my thumbscrew also to no avail.

P.S. the LVL10 works PERFECTLY with the 1.5 carrier and no shims IF I have the ULT in.
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Old 05-07-2012, 09:33 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Got a rail bushing?
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Old 05-07-2012, 10:25 AM   #3 (permalink)
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P.S. the LVL10 works PERFECTLY with the 1.5 carrier and no shims IF I have the ULT in.
So what's your problem? You just went through a whole spiel about your bolt sticking, leaking and not resting right...is it good or? It shouldn't mater what on/off you have installed. They're 2 different systems.
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Send it to tunaman or AGD if you can't figure it out.
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So what's your problem? You just went through a whole spiel about your bolt sticking, leaking and not resting right...is it good or? It shouldn't mater what on/off you have installed. They're 2 different systems.
That's what I cant figure out. The ON/OFF is changing the bolt stick. I am completely at a loss as to why that would make a difference. Basically I have two different problems right now.

With the RT ON/OFF I have nasty bolt stick. (Same Carrier as when the ULT is in and the LVL 10 works perfectly)
With the ULT, I have a leak around the trigger rod. (New O-rings in the ULT)
When I switch them out, I change NOTHING other than dropping in a new ON/OFF.

And yes, the Rail bushing is in place.

This may just be a send it to AGD and be done with it kind of thing.
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The extra trigger force of the RT on/off over the ULT also means it presses the sear against the bolt that much more. If the sear is rough on top and/or you have a weak bolt spring, the sear may be catching the bolt as much as anything. How far above the tip of the bolt does your spring extend?
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Old 05-07-2012, 03:45 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I've made it a point to send my mags to get tuned. I have two of them out right now.
The first ne I sent in, shoots amazing. Completely worry free.
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Still at work at the moment, so I cant measure it, but I am using the Red spring. I am not sure exactly how far it extends past the tip. That is a good observation though, I'll check that once I get home... My sear may just be causing my some of the issue.
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Hmm. Red would normally over power any friction, unless it has been cut or really worn.
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It is not cut, but it is worn a bit. I wouldn't say worn out though, unless it still looks very good and is worn. Normally Ive seen worn out springs losing most of their color by the time they need to be replaced.
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