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ironchef97 05-09-2012 10:58 PM

Help me with a mag question please!
 
I just bought a mag with an Xvalve and ULT trigger pull kit. I want to RT it.
Here's the questions:

1. Do I need to buy an RT on/off like this one: Tunamart
2. If so, do I also need an RT sear and pin assembly?

Or can I get an RT effect with the ULT trigger on/off? I saw a video of a guy who said he had an ULT trigger installed and was able to play with an RT effect.
AGD Air Gun Designs Automag RT ULE ULT Custom - YouTube

3. Will either setup (ULT or RT) be "improved" with a high PSI output tank (like 1200psi for instance) or is 800PSI fine?
Thanks!

DAVID(GEN) 05-09-2012 11:39 PM

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1) no you don't NEED to
2) no. I have an am/mm
3) 800 might be fine. 1200 would be great!

sQuidvision 05-10-2012 12:18 AM

just add a couple shims to the ULT and you should be slinging ropes in no time.

Spider! 05-10-2012 10:08 AM

800 is pretty low for RT. You can't blame the marker much if it doesn't work. ~850 usually puts my mags at about 12 bps, ~950 is 14 bps, ~1100 is 19 bps. Ninja and crossfire regs work well, depending on the pressure you want.

The ULT has less trigger force, both in initial pull and RT. Shims help, but it's the same as grinding an RT pin down. You're shortening the sear engagement and on/off top o-ring seating. The extra pressure lets you keep more of both while using RT.

ironchef97 05-10-2012 10:18 PM

I see, should I invest in a 68/45 size tank, or would a 50/45 (ninja tank) suffice for a field with all day air? I've read a 68 should yield about 900-1000 shots, while a 50/45 would yield in the range of 650-750 shots, depending on paint and bore matching (I'd be under boring).

sQuidvision 05-10-2012 10:24 PM

i use 45/4500 tanks most of the time and can easily shoot through a hopper and 4 pods... how much do you usually shoot in a single game i guess would be the question?

ironchef97 05-10-2012 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sQuidvision (Post 2339367)
i use 45/4500 tanks most of the time and can easily shoot through a hopper and 4 pods... how much do you usually shoot in a single game i guess would be the question?

Well I'm coming from stock class play lol..but I'm a pretty high volume shooter for stock class, like I'll shoot about 20-50 balls a round depending on how long I survive. I think I can manage 50/45, I don't plan on going crazy, but I want to lay down some fire if needed. A hopper/4 pods would be more than enough.

DAVID(GEN) 05-10-2012 10:39 PM

I run a 70ci 4500psi tank that outputs 1200psi on this...
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/c...0505003229.jpg
(I just recently took off the drop kick :()

I'll refill every 2-4 games

Spider! 05-10-2012 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ironchef97 (Post 2339356)
I see, should I invest in a 68/45 size tank, or would a 50/45 (ninja tank) suffice for a field with all day air? I've read a 68 should yield about 900-1000 shots, while a 50/45 would yield in the range of 650-750 shots, depending on paint and bore matching (I'd be under boring).

Depends on your play style and the fills at your field. Those numbers are for good fills.

If they really fill to about 3200 psi at the 4500 psi station, then you will get closer to 500 rounds out of a 45. I don't find it easy to change a setup back and forth with different size bottles, so I usually stick with a 68 on a mag.

Timber_Ghost 05-11-2012 04:00 PM

My tac one has a ULT and X-valve. At 850 psi, I can get it to RT an entire hopper if I want at around 12 or 13ish bps.

It's also walkable, and only RT's when I want it to. I've got about 2 and a half shims in it. I sanded one down until my mag behaved exactly like I wanted it to.


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