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biftip98 02-15-2013 07:31 PM

OG Eclipse Splash
 
Hello all,

So this is going to be my first project gun. I really enjoy old school guns especially with splash anno so I've been hunting for one for a while yet could never find anything I really liked that was in my price range.

So I found this on ebay and managed to pick it up for $160. Seemed like a pretty good deal considering a similar mag without the splash parts will sell for $100-$120 and it even came with a Revy!

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/5...0215163550.jpg

Mags are pretty simple so I figured it would be good first project gun.

I plan on adding a Xvalve and ULE body so I can use all the cocker barrels I already have.

What I really want to do though is come up with some sort of gas through grip design. I hate the super annoy, clumsy way most people run air to their valve. IDK why, I just find it really annoying and uncomfortable to have a gas line running across my hand and up the back of the marker.

I have seen a few gas through grip mags around, but does anyone know of a how to guide or attempted a similar mod and can offer me some advice.

Thanks for looking.

b-cuzz 02-15-2013 10:08 PM

Congrats on the snag! There's a couple things to consider with what you're wanting to do. first, installing a ULE body might prevent you from keeping the site rail, because the outer dimension on it may be a hair different than the stainless body. You can get around that with a barrel adapter. You can get them from docsmachine.com, and they work very well, and are invisible from the outside. Then, to run a gas-thru grip, you will need a standard foregrip of your choice, and a vertical adapter. There's a few places to get those, but the best ones are either plain black, or black and say lapco on the side. I had one 32 degrees one, and it leaked. That may not be typical, though, so don't write those off based on what i say. When you're looking for the vertical adapter, make sure it comes with the screw, and that it only uses one screw. The R/T rails use 2 on theirs, and wouldn't mix with what you have.

I may be wrong on the body, so I'm open for correction, but that's what you're gonna need for the gas-thru. Good luck!

biftip98 02-15-2013 10:38 PM

I am thinking of doing something like this:
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/3...fvqgfibq2r.jpg

I saw this go on ebay a lil while back. I intended to pick up an old stock plastic frame to try it out on.

My intent is to keep as many of the original splash parts as possible. Has anyone put a similar sight rail on a ule body? Will it work?

rseb4agze 02-20-2013 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by biftip98 (Post 2626474)
I am thinking of doing something like this:
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/3...fvqgfibq2r.jpg

I saw this go on ebay a lil while back. I intended to pick up an old stock plastic frame to try it out on.

My intent is to keep as many of the original splash parts as possible. Has anyone put a similar sight rail on a ule body? Will it work?

Sight rails with fit a ULE body, but it can leave some rubbing/scratch marks for installing and removing.

splashkitsrock420 02-20-2013 05:49 AM

i black tape the inside of the sightrail where it rubs a bit seems to cut down on the scratching a lil.....

i just run a loop foward from asa to valve never seems to get in my way.....i will say the old kapp grovey grips r kick butt for that


heheh i got kits like both of them and bid on both them markers on ebay ....:( sry i drove up ya prices

badzooka boy came close enought for me to match the few parts i still needed and wanted.....there not finished but ya get the idea
before


http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/s...0/DSC05683.jpg
after
http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/s...0/DSC05755.jpg


http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/s...0/DSC05677.jpg

http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/s...0/DSC05678.jpg

biftip98 02-20-2013 11:45 PM

Nice looking markers you've got. How long did it take you to assemble all those parts together?

Solid tip on the tape. I'm assuming your talking about regular electrical tape?

biftip98 02-26-2013 11:36 PM

Just ordered a black Emag body and an XValve. I'll post updated pics when they arrive and I get everything put together.

shawnhaskel 02-28-2013 06:09 PM

If you are a righty there is a reverse xvalve available. If doing the macro line thru grip might keep the palm side of grip more stock set an unpushed out while gripping the marker.

biftip98 03-03-2013 10:06 PM

So this is where I'm currently at:

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/1...0303193611.jpg

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I've added an xvalve, a black emag body, and any old school plastic frame with eclipse pops on/off. The macroline setup doesn't seem to bother me as much as I though it would. I haven't played with it yet, but its relatively comfy.

I still need to get some good twist lock barrels or perhaps doc's cocker thread adapter so I can use all my cocker barrels on it.

However, now I have two issues.

First the sight rail still doesn't seem to want to go on the body. I am afraid to force it on because I don't want to scratch the body up. I tried to use electrical tape, but that didn't work.

Second, the gun doesn't fire. I think the cause is that the sear pin doesn't go back far enough when the trigger is pulled to release the bolt. However, I am not sure about this because I only have limited knowledge of mags. Anyone have any ideas on this?

OPBN 03-04-2013 10:22 AM

Are you hearing a clicking noise when you air up? This should be the sound of the on/off setting and pushing the sear rod forward and locking into place. If you're not hearing this, check your sear rod length. I am pretty sure looking at your original pictures and updates that the sear rod will need to be screwed in some due to where the back of the trigger sat when you got it vs now. The trigger rod should sit a business cards thickness from the back of the trigger. Once you have this set, you may have to fiddle with the field strip screw to sweet spot it.

Check it and we can go from there.


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