Paintball

[richdog]

Hi I have two mags that i've had for years one is with a smartmag reg the other one has the s/p magic box mod. My question is that I forgot what makes these different from regular regs. Can anyone remember this mod?

[anomoly40]

The only thing it does is give you a little more air in the chamber. People have doubted it does anything for years.

[secretweaponevan]

Yup, just Smart Parts marketing hype to get you to spend money on "upgrades" that really don't provide any benefit over stock components.

Some might say this was when Smart Parts began the lies in order to rip off their customers.

[Silverback]

What the "Magic Box" did was add an expansion chamber. When the on/off opened it let in a measured amount of air. By allowing that air to expand into a larger volume, it LOWERED the pressure. By lowering the pressure of the air pushing the ball down the barrel there was less deformation of the paintball, therefore more accurate and SUBSTANTIALLY longer range.

Prior to the "Magic Box" mod I was consistantly out-ranged by Autocockers, after this mod we were able to stand back and long-ball the cockers.

That was NO HYPE! that was fact, that showed up in every tournament starting in spring of 93.

The "Smartmag" did the same thing by increasing the air chamber behind the bolt by machining it to closer tolerances than the AGD Valves. This gave an internal expansion area that was bigger and did the same thing as the "Magic Box".

Both worked very well, and it help myself and sponsored teams like Texas Storm, Jax Warriors, and All Americans kick *** for quite a while.

[anomoly40]

So you're saying a 280 FPS paintball will fly farther than a 280 FPS paintball?

Seriously?

Originally Posted by Silverback

When the on/off opened it let in a measured amount of air. By allowing that air to expand into a larger volume, it LOWERED the pressure.

The way a regulator measures air is by letting it get up to a certain pressure and when air pressure and spring pressure equalize it then seals off incoming air. So there will be MORE air but not at a lower pressure.

Tom Kaye himself said this

Originally Posted by AGD

Pressure in the gun has little to do with the pressure behind the ball.
Barrel length has nothing to do with accuracy
One gun does not shoot "flatter" or "farther" than another.

[secretweaponevan]

Originally Posted by Silverback

What the "Magic Box" did was add an expansion chamber. When the on/off opened it let in a measured amount of air. By allowing that air to expand into a larger volume, it LOWERED the pressure. By lowering the pressure of the air pushing the ball down the barrel there was less deformation of the paintball, therefore more accurate and SUBSTANTIALLY longer range.

Not quite. It let the dump chamber fill with more air, which would allow you to lower the pressure slightly. The net result was slightly poorer efficiency (~10% poorer IIRC, tested by Tom Kaye), that is all.

Two projectiles traveling at the same velocity will travel the same distance. Of all the laws, Smart Parts has yet to break the laws of physics.

[Zoo]

Originally Posted by secretweaponevan

Two projectiles traveling at the same velocity will travel the same distance. Of all the laws, Smart Parts has yet to break the laws of physics.

Sigged!

And Silverback, Tom Kaye and several other industry leaders performed many tests about the so-called 'deformation' of a paintball upon acceleration and the whole 'high-pressure/low volume vs. low-pressure/high volume' debate. What they found is #1) the ball does not significantly deform under normal operating pressures of a marker and #2) high pressure or low pressure, they both get the ball to ~280 fps and therefore will have the same velocity.

The Gardner boys never could come up with any lab results about their 'deforming ball' theory.

[DarkStar]

Originally Posted by Silverback

What the "Magic Box" did was add an expansion chamber. When the on/off opened it let in a measured amount of air. By allowing that air to expand into a larger volume, it LOWERED the pressure. By lowering the pressure of the air pushing the ball down the barrel there was less deformation of the paintball, therefore more accurate and SUBSTANTIALLY longer range.

Prior to the "Magic Box" mod I was consistantly out-ranged by Autocockers, after this mod we were able to stand back and long-ball the cockers.

That was NO HYPE! that was fact, that showed up in every tournament starting in spring of 93.

The "Smartmag" did the same thing by increasing the air chamber behind the bolt by machining it to closer tolerances than the AGD Valves. This gave an internal expansion area that was bigger and did the same thing as the "Magic Box".

Both worked very well, and it help myself and sponsored teams like Texas Storm, Jax Warriors, and All Americans kick *** for quite a while.

Go back and retake physics. You sir, failed.

-MR

[sdawg]

Originally Posted by Silverback

That was NO HYPE! that was fact, that showed up in every tournament starting in spring of 93.

Wow, only on MCB would I call a post like this a "troll."

[secretweaponevan]

Originally Posted by sdawg

Wow, only on MCB would I call a post like this a "troll."

Aye we are all a different breed here on MCB. Here, the men still wear hats.