Jury on Level 10?

TheBishop · 03-09-2008, 10:27 PM

So I have owned a Powerfeed Automag for about 10 years now. I am running entirely stock except the barrel and a Dye 2x trigger with HPA all along. I have been bouncing around the idea of getting a Level 10 kit for several years now. My marker does tend to chop a couple times a day, and sometimes gets a little squirrelly under rapid fire.

Do people love their Level 10's or should I just keep my Level 7?

What are the real deal, no BS advantages of spending the $75?

MedicDVG · 03-09-2008, 10:54 PM

I love my level 10 bolt. I have NEVER chopped a ball with it. They can be a little touchy to tune, but once you have it dialed in, you just forget it and shoot away.

Well worth the money.

AGDRetro · 03-09-2008, 11:02 PM

AGD has never been known for producing a product that doesn't perform as advertised. Hyping things up was never Tom's style.

The Level 10 bolts work great, I have them in both my RT Pro's and have one in the tool box for when I convert the Pump Mag to semi. Well tuned, they will be one of the best investments you could ever make for your Mag!

Bored383 · 03-10-2008, 12:37 AM

I love the Lvl10 in my ghetto-minimag . . . the foamy shot off the bolt years ago and I haven't bothered to replace it because it is simply not needed . . . it doesn't bust paint . . . no matter how fast I shoot, no matter if my loader is fubard, no matter how crappy the paint is that I am shooting.

the original tuning has held up perfectly over the years - and I even swapped them from a ReTro valve to an X-valve, and didnt have to change a thing.

sdawg · 03-10-2008, 12:42 AM

It is worth the money. You will never have to worry about chopping ever again.

If the foamie comes off, soak the end of the bolt with acetone or fingernail polish remover to completely remove the old glue and oil/grease/residue. Then superglue that sucker on, and the new foamie won't be going anywhere.

Litespeed · 03-10-2008, 12:48 AM

It just requires a little patience and a substantial air supply up front to tweak it, but afterwards, as long as you oil it regularly and often, it is a great upgrade.

$75 bucks? You need to search a little harder. I just bought one for spare parts off amazon/"actionvillage" and beat that substantially.

punkncat · 03-10-2008, 12:48 AM

It can be a total pain in the *** to tune at first when you know little about it. It uses a bit more air than the lvl 7 bolt.

After you get over that, its the single best upgrade available for a Mag IMO. No batteries, no chops.

Clearush · 03-10-2008, 09:26 AM

Does it work as advertised - yes

Is it a good upgrade - yes if you use gravity loaders, if you get a force loader then there really is no need.

Is it worth the money - for peace of mind not worrying about chopping paint yes.

Can you get it cheaper - yes lots of people seem to sell used lvl10's for like $50 all the time.

Personaly I love mine in my punemag, but i don't have one in my pump mag and I won't put one in it either. Basicly it does everthing eyes and a $100 force loader does for e-guns, it stops the chop. So its up to you to decide if you want it.

BTW its fun to stick your finger in the breach and pull the trigger once it tuned, you can really freak your friends out if they don't know you've installed the lvl10.

Robertsr · 03-10-2008, 10:04 AM

Good stuff. Every one of my mags has one. I won't leave home without it.

Azzy · 03-10-2008, 11:26 AM

Had one, and it worked as advertised. It would hang up in different barrels, and the foamy shot off... I got rid of the mag shortly afterwards.

But it does stop chopping.

03-09-2008, 10:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
TheBishop Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Michigan City, Indiana	Jury on Level 10? So I have owned a Powerfeed Automag for about 10 years now. I am running entirely stock except the barrel and a Dye 2x trigger with HPA all along. I have been bouncing around the idea of getting a Level 10 kit for several years now. My marker does tend to chop a couple times a day, and sometimes gets a little squirrelly under rapid fire. Do people love their Level 10's or should I just keep my Level 7? What are the real deal, no BS advantages of spending the $75?

03-09-2008, 10:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
MedicDVG MCB Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Just back from Iraq and freezing my butt off in Wisconsin	I love my level 10 bolt. I have NEVER chopped a ball with it. They can be a little touchy to tune, but once you have it dialed in, you just forget it and shoot away. Well worth the money. __________________ My Feedback: Paintball Forum : PBNation : Ebay : AO : MCB : PHog

03-09-2008, 11:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
AGDRetro MCB Supporting Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ephrata, PA	AGD has never been known for producing a product that doesn't perform as advertised. Hyping things up was never Tom's style. The Level 10 bolts work great, I have them in both my RT Pro's and have one in the tool box for when I convert the Pump Mag to semi. Well tuned, they will be one of the best investments you could ever make for your Mag! __________________ Steve Shuey \| Teams Crimson Reign & Amish Mafia\| AGD Enthusiast MCB Feedback \| AO Feedback

03-10-2008, 12:37 AM	#4 (permalink)
Bored383 slacker elite Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sandy Eggo by way of Mobtown	I love the Lvl10 in my ghetto-minimag . . . the foamy shot off the bolt years ago and I haven't bothered to replace it because it is simply not needed . . . it doesn't bust paint . . . no matter how fast I shoot, no matter if my loader is fubard, no matter how crappy the paint is that I am shooting. the original tuning has held up perfectly over the years - and I even swapped them from a ReTro valve to an X-valve, and didnt have to change a thing. __________________ Check out my website http://www.bored383.com, hosted at http://www.angryhosting.com/ We need to save ourselves from those who would save us from ourselves. Tom Kaye '08 A book has moving parts. They're called pages. What will the future hold? smart parts = taco bell . . . Be Well!!

03-10-2008, 12:42 AM	#5 (permalink)
sdawg MCB Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas	It is worth the money. You will never have to worry about chopping ever again. If the foamie comes off, soak the end of the bolt with acetone or fingernail polish remover to completely remove the old glue and oil/grease/residue. Then superglue that sucker on, and the new foamie won't be going anywhere. __________________ Everybody: Let's ease up on the red loctite, 'kay? Thanks. Feedback

03-10-2008, 12:48 AM	#6 (permalink)
Litespeed Active Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Tullahoma, TN	It just requires a little patience and a substantial air supply up front to tweak it, but afterwards, as long as you oil it regularly and often, it is a great upgrade. $75 bucks? You need to search a little harder. I just bought one for spare parts off amazon/"actionvillage" and beat that substantially. __________________ Litespeed's Feedback

03-10-2008, 12:48 AM	#7 (permalink)
punkncat MCB Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: McDonough, GA	It can be a total pain in the *** to tune at first when you know little about it. It uses a bit more air than the lvl 7 bolt. After you get over that, its the single best upgrade available for a Mag IMO. No batteries, no chops. __________________ One Foot Less-Dan's Land Paintball in Jackson, Ga AOG feedback AO Feedback MCB Feedback

03-10-2008, 09:26 AM	#8 (permalink)
Clearush Meatshield Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: HTown, TX	Does it work as advertised - yes Is it a good upgrade - yes if you use gravity loaders, if you get a force loader then there really is no need. Is it worth the money - for peace of mind not worrying about chopping paint yes. Can you get it cheaper - yes lots of people seem to sell used lvl10's for like $50 all the time. Personaly I love mine in my punemag, but i don't have one in my pump mag and I won't put one in it either. Basicly it does everthing eyes and a $100 force loader does for e-guns, it stops the chop. So its up to you to decide if you want it. BTW its fun to stick your finger in the breach and pull the trigger once it tuned, you can really freak your friends out if they don't know you've installed the lvl10. __________________ Carter's Commando Texas division Black Watch Scenario Paintball Team My SCP Feedback Ebay Feedback MCB Feedback

03-10-2008, 10:04 AM	#9 (permalink)
Robertsr Ultimate Battle Monkey Z Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Waynesboro, VA	Good stuff. Every one of my mags has one. I won't leave home without it. __________________ Geriatrically Assured Destruction

03-10-2008, 11:26 AM	#10 (permalink)
Azzy Mod-O-Rator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Finleyville, PA	Had one, and it worked as advertised. It would hang up in different barrels, and the foamy shot off... I got rid of the mag shortly afterwards. But it does stop chopping. __________________ Bryan "Azzy" Spiegel Riverside Renegade Paintball / C.C. S.V.S. Plankowner - LPPC#6 "It is my right to be uncommon—if I can. I seek opportunity—not security. I do not wish to be a kept citizen, humbled and dulled by having the state look after me. I want to take the calculated risk; to dream and to build, to fail and to succeed. I refuse to barter incentive for a dole. I prefer the challenges of life to the guaranteed existence; the thrill of fulfillment to the stale calm of utopia. I will not trade freedom for beneficence nor my dignity for a handout. I will never cower before any master nor bend to any threat. It is my heritage to stand erect, proud and unafraid; to think and act for myself, enjoy the benefit of my creations and to face the world boldly and say, “This I have done.” - Dean Alfange

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