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Old 03-13-2008, 12:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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12V Warp Help

So I bought a nice warp package off AO, and it does not seem to be working. It has the on/off and LED mods, but I think this might be the issue:

Here is a shoddy wiring diagram from the original battery harness snap to the two new ones that comprise the 12V mod. Are the two loose wires supposed to be connected? (Please don't laugh at my purdy pictar )

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You are missing your 12 vdc regulator. There should be heat shrink covered Voltage regulator contected between your loose wires. To check functionality of the warp disconnect the two extra 9vdc battery connectors and connect one nine volt battery to the original connector. Then there is a little button outside the warp feed under the gear housing. If you push this button the motor should spin or you can rap on the side of the warp feed if the vibration sensor has not been disabled.

Go to the AGD website and look up the Warp documentation in .pdf format and all the insturctions you could possibly need are there to do the 12vdc mod correctly.

WARNING TO NOT HOOK UP TWO 9V batteries in series with out the 12v regulator you will damage the motor.
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You are missing your 12 vdc regulator. There should be heat shrink covered Voltage regulator contected between your loose wires. To check functionality of the warp disconnect the two extra 9vdc battery connectors and connect one nine volt battery to the original connector. Then there is a little button outside the warp feed under the gear housing. If you push this button the motor should spin or you can rap on the side of the warp feed if the vibration sensor has not been disabled.

Go to the AGD website and look up the Warp documentation in .pdf format and all the insturctions you could possibly need are there to do the 12vdc mod correctly.

WARNING TO NOT HOOK UP TWO 9V batteries in parellel with out the 12v regulator you will damage the motor.

Is the voltage regulator a little component with a hole in it? Like the one in this picture:



It DOES have that. My drawing was mainly to illustrate that two wires are not connected that I thought SHOULD be. Thanks for the help thus far, I will try disconnecting the 12V mod.

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Also, it looks like the 12V, on/off, and LED mod are all wired in together. I can disconnect the 12V mod, but not remove it as it is integral to the on/off and LED.

As well, the 'original' battery harness seems to be reverse polarized. When I touch the negative to negative and positive to positive, the LED turns on, but nothing when I actually attach the battery properly.
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The little thing with the hole should be the 12 vdc regulator (given they used the correct part). Where have they attached the switch and LED. Normally you can just disconnect the 12v mod and use the warp's stock battery connection as they came from AGD. If they placed the switch before the original battery connection you will have to "turn on" the switch with just one 9v then activate the manual button under the gear housing on the outside of the Warp Feed.

If you have the Warp feed taken apart take a picture of the "Mod" all connected up and post it. When I get out of work I'll look it over and let you know what you need to do to test the basic operation. This will also give me time to look up the modification instructions and diagram. There is actually a few different ways to accomplish a 12 v mod with switch and LED that do not follow AGD suggestions on how to do it. None of them are difficult if you take your time.

I'm actually converting one of my 12v modded Warps back to 9v but using differnt battery pack for endurance. I really do not shoot fast enough to really make use of the 12v mod and it eats batteries quickly.
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I have returned the warp to 'factory setup', or at least mostly. I have had it running with a single 9V now to test it out, and it works great. I have not been able to detach the entire 'mod' as to remove the LED I would have to cut the wires and pull it out of the shell (the bulb is too wide to fall back through the hole). I can post a picture shortly. I am wondering if it might be worth my while to take apart all of the components and start from scratch seeing as how I have all the parts needed.

Thanks again for the help, and I look forward to your recommendations.
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I'm going to just lurk back here in the shadows, since Grendel is helping already.

You know how I feel about this, let me know whatever I can do to help.
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Don't worry about it! I am very impressed with it, I just need to get it wired. I was thinking I could just solder the two wires back together, but I might rewire the whole thing to practice my soldering skills.
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From a strict circuit design perspective, you should wire up the 2 9v's in series (positive of one battery and negative of the other battery going to the device, with the negative of the first battery wired to the positive of the other battery), with a total potential of 18V.

The 12V regulator is there to make sure that the motor will only "see" 12V of the 18V available (how you hook up the 12V regulator is dependant upon how the regulator package is designed, but it seems that AGD has taken care of this).

If this is a prepackaged wiring setup, just connect the 2x 9V's according to the battery terminals, as the maker should have done the series wiring between the two battery connectors. If not, follow my suggestion above.

Hope this helps.
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