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Old 05-05-2008, 12:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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ghetto-mag fun - or why I love AGD so

my main AGD marker is a ghetto minimag that I am forever tinkering with. On Saturday I was prepping gear for the JI Big Game 11 and I was checking over this mag. I had recently added a crossfire 114/4500 to it. It's reg had sprung a leak, I tried to repair it to no avail, so I swapped the reg out for a AA raptor rex I had picked up recently. It was leaking out the fill nipple - I replaced that, to find that it fills fine - but nothing comes out. Thats a problem I'll deal with later . . . that bomb is safely stored in the garage now

I still really wanted to use this mag though . . . but I had no other in hydro hpa tanks beside my 13ci.

well a short while ago I had built a mag pistol using a parts bin lvl 7 valve - it has a 68automag front, a rental back, and just bits and pieces I had laying about. The valve worked beautifully with no tuning . . . it had good efficiency and consistency on 12grs - I was getting 20 usable shots off of a 12gr with it. I looked at that mag, at my ghetto mag, and hatched a plan.

I pulled the x-valve out the ghetto mag . . . I pulled the lvl7 valve out the pistol mag . . . I removed the LX setup from the x-valve and installed it into the parts bin special valve. I aired it up, adjusted the reg, and it worked! No tuning required, no fiddling, no nothing.

being adventurous I took it apart and replaced the on-off with a spare RT on-off I had. Aired it back up again - it worked great, with snappy fast trigger.

At the field I had to dial it down about 20fps at the chrono - and it worked like a champ. I ran a 20oz vertically, with an old lapco barrel and a stock coming off the bottomline.

it is seriously my new favorite mag now! I can't wait to try it with hpa instead of CO2 - but it did work wonderfully with the old school vert 20oz. Now I have to buy another LX setup for the X-valve

and maybe I should get my out of hydro tanks hydrod . . .

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Old 05-05-2008, 12:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Don't forget the 48 inch stainless hose wrapped a bunch of times around the feedneck ;-)
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...You left out the part of the day where they shot you in the hopper.




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Muph, I played castle with my sniper with a 24" braided stanless hose coiled in a loop after the bottomline and leading into the Stab. Carter got a kick out of it. I'll probably use the same setup on my 'Phoon as I don't want to go through the hastle of finding some one local to instal antisiphons on all my tanks.

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...You left out the part of the day where they shot you in the hopper.





That friggin sucked! they broke the spring on the lid . . . besides pelting me with a half dozen hits . . . and it was just a retarded teammate!!



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and Schmitti - I did also rock the VM for a bit yesterday. With loudener
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Come on, man, those of us who weren't there wanna see the ghetto mag in all its glory!
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Excellent!

Dad had the hopper lid on a Revy break off at Castle... standing in the bunkhouse getting his gun set up.. I hand it over so he can fill it with paint and the lid up and breaks off... luckily I had a backup hopper... and a back up to the back up if there was a need.

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Muph, I played castle with my sniper with a 24" braided stanless hose coiled in a loop after the bottomline and leading into the Stab. Carter got a kick out of it. I'll probably use the same setup on my 'Phoon as I don't want to go through the hastle of finding some one local to instal antisiphons on all my tanks.

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I actually wrote that because I'd been browsing old tourney pics a few years back, and just about everyone running mags on co2 were running vert bottle with the steel hose wrapped around the feedneck a bunch of times and into the valve, the super-long hose acting like an expansion chamber.
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Yup. Back in the earliy 90's it was the thing to do. I had a friend who ran his mag that way. Other than my sniper (which really didn't need it) I've run a vm that way also.

If you don't want to run a remote, then it is the way to go... or then of course there are expansion chambers

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If I ever wind up with a classic-valved mag, I'd probably run it that way to see how many of the old guys get a chuckle out of it. Of course if I buy a mag by itself it's gonna have an RT valve since I already have a couple nitro bottles.
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