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[Legato]

Hi i have a PTP Micro Emag. Since the day i got it it hasn't been working. At first it would at least fire in mech, but not electro. Got a new battery off Automags.org. Now my problem is the sear/trigger rod doesn't go out far enough to set the sear anymore and touch the trigger. Neither in mech or electric. So i can pull the trigger and it will not fire. I don't know what to do.

It is a PTP alien anno micro emag, it has a ReTro 68 Magnum Valve with XMOD


better pic of it from when i bought it (no i don't have the blue x valve)


At first the guy who sold it to me said it was the on/off pin. Sounded plausible, as that is what triggers the sear/trigger rod. I changed out that on/off pin with a new Emag one, which was longer than the current one. No change.

I checked the two seals that i could see in the on/off. The one around the brass fitting, it was still fine, but i changed it anyways. The only other seal i could see was after pulling out the brass piece, at the bottom of the on/off, it was a hard feeling seal, not like a soft oring. I needed to use a pick to get it out. I soaked it in oil and it still didn't help. I tried oiling everything i could see. It still won't let me fire. No leaks that i can hear.

I am not sure how far i need to turn the rear FPS adjustment screw in, i don't know if that does anything involving my problem, but a few turns in each direction from where i started showed nothing.

I have 2000 psi left in my tank, so i know i am not low on air, as it didn't cycle either when i was at 4500 psi still.

Even with the battery removed and it in mech, that rod will not move forward to touch the back of the trigger. I am totally lost and desparate for help. I don't even want to use this marker, i need to sell it, i am desparate for money. I can barely afford to play pump, i can't fund another semi. I don't want to sell a non working marker. So any help i can get would be greatly appreciated.

If you live in MA near Milford and could come and help me tech it i would gladly pay you. I am just sick of fooling around with it. I can't for the life of me figure what is wrong.

[Duzzy]

Have you tried lengthening the sear rod?

[Legato]

no because i can't figure how to get it out to do that, and because i know it worked before at the length it's at, so i don't get why it won't work now. I didn't screw it in any.

[A-Tach-One]

If the original on/off pin was .675 I would leave that one in. It is meant for the Micro Emags and is a touch shorter than the Emag on/off.

Honestly the Fireblade trigger wasn't truly designed to function in both mech and electro out of the box. It usually requires trigger rod adjustments to get that trigger to fire in mech. So it is possible yours was tampered with and has fallen out of adjustment. Just a thought.

I would concentrate on getting the marker to fire in electro and not worry about mech mode. Does your board register trigger pulls when in trigger mode? I would check your trigger rod length and compare it to AGD spec. Then I would check the plunger length. Xmod sometimes requires a slightly longer plunger length in my experience. Lastly just to be absolutely positive, is the safety off? I can't tell in the first pic.

[Legato]

I will throw the shorter pin in tomorrow.

Fair enough about the trigger, i have zero knowledge on mags. So anything you tell me i will definitly take as word.

The marker registers the trigger pulls in electro. I can go through all the software steps if i hit the upper button, i can cycle through everything with ease.

What's the difference between a plunger and the trigger rod?? The rod is the one that touches the trigger and activated the On/off right?? Where is the plunger? Sorry, i am horrible at this. Safety is off. Oddly enough no matter where the safety is i can pull the trigger in mech, it doesn't stop it at all.

[Duzzy]

It's been a while since I've been up to date on 'Mags, but as far as I know the trigger rod isn't used at all in Electronic Mode.

Anyways, the trigger rod is the rod on the sear that sticks out of the frame behind the trigger. The plunger is inside the grip frame and is part of the solenoid that fires the marker in E-Mode. IIRC it's the part that pushes the On/Off.

[A-Tach-One]

Originally Posted by Duzzy

It's been a while since I've been up to date on 'Mags, but as far as I know the trigger rod isn't used at all in Electronic Mode.

True but once we get it working in electro mode and if the trigger rod was lengthend it will bounce like a mofo. So a good reason to check if it is within AGD spec to prevent any further trouble shooting.

[flyingpootang]

Legato, A_Tach is the all knowing Guru of Mags, so the man knows his stuff. I have a small collection of mags also and have good skills at getting them going. To be sure we are all on the same page I'll go over some basics.

(1) Use a high output tank (850 psi)
(2) You have at least 1000 psi left in the tank
(3) You mentioned any mods or changes you have done to the marker
(4) Your battery is fully charged
(5) The safety on the back strap is not on
(6) Does your trigger have a magnet in the middle????
To start with if you remove the right grip (screen side) Turn on the marker, air it up and pull the trigger. See if you can see the plunger move when fired? If not can you push the sear rod rearward and fire the marker?

[b-cuzz]

I don't have anything useful to say. I just wanted to say that's a sweet micro.

[russc]

I think it's probably the trigger rod as well.