double-trigger frames

usagi_tetsu · 08-05-2008, 01:22 PM

So I want to put a double-trigger frame on the PTP Micromag body-knockoff I purchased a while back. I picked up a Benchmark frame that isn't the right color (chrome is what I'm going for, to match the theme of the rest of this build) and the trigger itself has an extreme amount of side-to-side slop in it, which makes this particular frame a no-go. Now, I've been looking at Intelliframes as they have rave reviews about them from all who've used them, but even used they still run $75 or more, and that's if you catch the deal sooner than everyone else, so I'm looking for alternatives that a) have chrome as a color option, and b) don't have a gross amount of trigger slop. One of them is a DYE double trigger frame I found on eBay and have watched through it's first auction, and now it's relist (take a look here), so I'm asking you guys what you think of the DYE trigger frames. Are these frames comparable to the I-frames in quality and durability? Is this a good buy?

Thanks!

spawnsharks · 08-05-2008, 01:39 PM

Let me look at the one I have. It looks like a Kapp knockoff with no guard. Great looking frame. I'll check it for slop and let you know how she fares. The double trigger is the shoe type, but you could have it cheap or in trade.

Ir0nExpress · 08-05-2008, 05:41 PM

***EDIT*** I was on crack

usagi_tetsu · 08-05-2008, 07:19 PM

*hmmm* I'm suddenly getting an idea to pick up a whole assortment of frames and doing side-by-side comparison, but that just goes all against my "trying not to spend much" goal. I think I'll just put a bid in on that DYE frame and see how it works.

SpawnSharks - thanks for the offer, but I've never been a large fan of the guardless grip frames. Other than that, it'd probably fill my needs, but this marker, out of all my other projects, has to not only be very functional but also possess a certain look. Trust me, when this is all done, this is going to be one sweet looking little micromag knockoff.

Nobody · 08-06-2008, 10:34 PM

i remember using a Benchmark double trigger and it had tremendous slop in it, but it never effected the trigger in anyway. even an intelliframe has some slop to it, its certainly not the worst trigger, but not the best in sloppiest. though i have never tried a Logic or RGP frames. you can shim it, but it will take a little work to do so.

maninblack · 08-08-2008, 04:44 PM

A little slop is fine for a trigger. I have both an intelliframe and a benchmark frame. The benchmark has excessive slop, but was usable. The Intelliframe is worth the money, in my opinion. It feels better in your hand, has a crisper feel when shooting, and was made by the same company that made the automag to begin with.

ThePixelGuru · 08-10-2008, 01:07 AM

Benchys are terrible in my opinion. I tried one out and decided it wasn't worth the $9 the guy was asking. Tons of slop, really long pull and it lacked any of the "snap" that I liked in my Minimag.

Intelliframes are pure quality, though. AGD always makes good stuff.

A-Tach-One · 08-10-2008, 12:50 PM

I agree with what ThePixelGuru said, I too disliked my Benchmark frames. I would pick up the Intelli, it's without a doubt a better product.

cockerpunk · 08-11-2008, 11:08 PM

i like my powerlite frame. maybe it just fits my hands better than the inteli, though the AGD frame is nice. i would stear away from benchmark and dye.

usagi_tetsu · 08-12-2008, 01:01 PM

A little slop is understandable in paintball triggers, but the slop in the Benchmark frame I have is extreme. It reminds me of my first car (1979 Datsun 210 station wagon... oh yeah, that was a chick magnet *rolls eyes*) as the gearing was so loose that unless you were familiar with the car, you thought the shifter was in neutral even though it was in gear. Just unacceptable level of slop for this beauty of a paintmarker I'm building up.

Well, I tried to get that DYE frame on eBay, but the bid got pushed past my comfort zone, so I left off and lost the auction. Not many other Dye frames to be had, so I think I'm just going to bite the bullet and pick up an Intelliframe.

Now, there's plenty of I-frames running around for sale on the boards, but they're all black in color and I need a chrome one. Not a black one that has had the anno ground off of it so it's the base aluminum gray, nor do I want to spend money to have one stripped and chromed - I need an honest-to-God chrome I-frame. So, back to hunting the F/S/T boards and eBay.

08-05-2008, 01:22 PM	#1 (permalink)
usagi_tetsu Active Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO	double-trigger frames So I want to put a double-trigger frame on the PTP Micromag body-knockoff I purchased a while back. I picked up a Benchmark frame that isn't the right color (chrome is what I'm going for, to match the theme of the rest of this build) and the trigger itself has an extreme amount of side-to-side slop in it, which makes this particular frame a no-go. Now, I've been looking at Intelliframes as they have rave reviews about them from all who've used them, but even used they still run $75 or more, and that's if you catch the deal sooner than everyone else, so I'm looking for alternatives that a) have chrome as a color option, and b) don't have a gross amount of trigger slop. One of them is a DYE double trigger frame I found on eBay and have watched through it's first auction, and now it's relist (take a look here), so I'm asking you guys what you think of the DYE trigger frames. Are these frames comparable to the I-frames in quality and durability? Is this a good buy? Thanks! __________________ WWVD? Sometimes, you just have to ask yourself, "What would Velcor do?" My Feedback TOG

08-05-2008, 01:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
spawnsharks Newbie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA	Let me look at the one I have. It looks like a Kapp knockoff with no guard. Great looking frame. I'll check it for slop and let you know how she fares. The double trigger is the shoe type, but you could have it cheap or in trade. __________________ Boomerangs are pretty much Frisbees for antisocial kids I don't understand how hitting someone with one of 300 balls, fired at 30BPS is skill.... yet a single ball to the face from a PGP is a "lucky" shot.... My gallery Classic Nickel 15rd PMI-1 for trade... HERE If we've dealt in the past, please leave feedback in my Feedback thread

08-05-2008, 05:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
Ir0nExpress Kawaiii~~ SUGOI DESU NE?! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Staten Island/Stony Brook New York	*EDIT* I was on crack __________________ President of the SUNY Stony Brook Paintball Club. Pbreview Feedback MCarterBrown Feedback Automags.org Feedback Last edited by Ir0nExpress; 08-12-2008 at 01:17 PM..

08-05-2008, 07:19 PM	#4 (permalink)
usagi_tetsu Active Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO	hmmm I'm suddenly getting an idea to pick up a whole assortment of frames and doing side-by-side comparison, but that just goes all against my "trying not to spend much" goal. I think I'll just put a bid in on that DYE frame and see how it works. SpawnSharks - thanks for the offer, but I've never been a large fan of the guardless grip frames. Other than that, it'd probably fill my needs, but this marker, out of all my other projects, has to not only be very functional but also possess a certain look. Trust me, when this is all done, this is going to be one sweet looking little micromag knockoff. __________________ WWVD? Sometimes, you just have to ask yourself, "What would Velcor do?" My Feedback TOG

08-10-2008, 01:07 AM	#7 (permalink)
ThePixelGuru Active Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Massachusetts	Benchys are terrible in my opinion. I tried one out and decided it wasn't worth the $9 the guy was asking. Tons of slop, really long pull and it lacked any of the "snap" that I liked in my Minimag. Intelliframes are pure quality, though. AGD always makes good stuff. __________________

08-06-2008, 10:34 PM	#5 (permalink)
Nobody Active Member Join Date: May 2007	i remember using a Benchmark double trigger and it had tremendous slop in it, but it never effected the trigger in anyway. even an intelliframe has some slop to it, its certainly not the worst trigger, but not the best in sloppiest. though i have never tried a Logic or RGP frames. you can shim it, but it will take a little work to do so.

08-08-2008, 04:44 PM	#6 (permalink)
maninblack Rec Poster Join Date: May 2008	A little slop is fine for a trigger. I have both an intelliframe and a benchmark frame. The benchmark has excessive slop, but was usable. The Intelliframe is worth the money, in my opinion. It feels better in your hand, has a crisper feel when shooting, and was made by the same company that made the automag to begin with.

08-10-2008, 12:50 PM	#8 (permalink)
A-Tach-One Active Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cental Cali	I agree with what ThePixelGuru said, I too disliked my Benchmark frames. I would pick up the Intelli, it's without a doubt a better product.

08-11-2008, 11:08 PM	#9 (permalink)
cockerpunk MCB Member Join Date: Jul 2006	i like my powerlite frame. maybe it just fits my hands better than the inteli, though the AGD frame is nice. i would stear away from benchmark and dye. __________________ the ultimate truth in paintball is that the interaction between the gun and the player is far and away the largest factor in accuracy, consistency, and reliability. >>PAINTBALL SCIENCE!<< "Originally posted by Garbageman705: Arguing with Cockerpunk is like fighting a T-Rex. Your going to get your *** kicked."

08-12-2008, 01:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
usagi_tetsu Active Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO	A little slop is understandable in paintball triggers, but the slop in the Benchmark frame I have is extreme. It reminds me of my first car (1979 Datsun 210 station wagon... oh yeah, that was a chick magnet rolls eyes) as the gearing was so loose that unless you were familiar with the car, you thought the shifter was in neutral even though it was in gear. Just unacceptable level of slop for this beauty of a paintmarker I'm building up. Well, I tried to get that DYE frame on eBay, but the bid got pushed past my comfort zone, so I left off and lost the auction. Not many other Dye frames to be had, so I think I'm just going to bite the bullet and pick up an Intelliframe. Now, there's plenty of I-frames running around for sale on the boards, but they're all black in color and I need a chrome one. Not a black one that has had the anno ground off of it so it's the base aluminum gray, nor do I want to spend money to have one stripped and chromed - I need an honest-to-God chrome I-frame. So, back to hunting the F/S/T boards and eBay. __________________ WWVD? Sometimes, you just have to ask yourself, "What would Velcor do?" My Feedback TOG

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