Shootdown problems...

Jordan · 08-07-2008, 10:51 PM

I've got a Classic-valved Mag that experiences shootdown.

I think I've got it narrowed down to my HPA tank reg - it was only putting out around 600psi - and a restrictive bottomline setup, but I was looking at the owner's manual and I noticed it mentions checking the trigger rod gap.

I've got an Intelliframe on the Mag, and I haven't adjusted the gap, assuming it was fine, but I don't think there's a 1/16 gap between the trigger and rod. Is it crucial? I'm just wondering if I'm having shoot down problems from potentially not releasing the trigger all the way. If that's not an issue, I won't mess around with it.

It's an otherwise stock gun - I had thought that the Intelliframe being an AGD product would mean no messing around, but that may not be the case.

Jordan

Cunha · 08-07-2008, 11:15 PM

You need 800 psi into classic mags. RT's can go down a little lower like 600-650.

Jordan · 08-08-2008, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cunha

You need 800 psi into classic mags. RT's can go down a little lower like 600-650.

Huh?

I knew that - see my original post - just wondering if the trigger gap was crucial.

Jordan

minimag03 · 08-08-2008, 12:22 PM

Did you buy the marker new or used? Some people mess with the trigger rod length to try to give their marker a trigger job.

usagi_tetsu · 08-08-2008, 12:50 PM

You're probably right that it is the tank reg. I've never seen shootdown due to trigger rod gap. Of course, all you need to adjust the trigger rod gap is a good pair of pliers or visegrips and screw the trigger rod in or out. It can't hurt anything to get the prescribed gap in there, and if it fixes the problem, then you're golden.

Jordan · 08-08-2008, 05:25 PM

I bought all the parts from Mr.Big, and assembled it. The sear is stock - I had one from a parts kit I got several years ago - so I believe that the length is unchanged.

I'll have my new reg on my tank tomorrow, and try it out before I start monkeying with the trigger rod - I don't want to change too many things without eliminating the most obvious things first, and if it's just the reg that was causing it, I'll be happy.

Jordan

minimag03 · 08-08-2008, 05:32 PM

If you have a caliper then you can check the length of the rod yourself. That is how they adjust them at the factory. The "1/16 gap" is to give you an idea if the rod needs to be adjusted.

russc · 08-08-2008, 06:17 PM

Forget fiddling with the rod until you get a proper tank on there. Best to eliminate problems one at a time.

Jordan · 08-08-2008, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minimag03

If you have a caliper then you can check the length of the rod yourself. That is how they adjust them at the factory. The "1/16 gap" is to give you an idea if the rod needs to be adjusted.

I do have a caliper - what's the spec?

Jordan

Cunha · 08-10-2008, 05:03 PM

If you are even a bit confident about the trigger rod being in stock location I would leave it as is. Fortunately tampered with rods are becoming less and less common

So it is probably just the too low input pressure.

08-07-2008, 10:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
Jordan This space is vacant. Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Vineland, Ontario	Shootdown problems... I've got a Classic-valved Mag that experiences shootdown. I think I've got it narrowed down to my HPA tank reg - it was only putting out around 600psi - and a restrictive bottomline setup, but I was looking at the owner's manual and I noticed it mentions checking the trigger rod gap. I've got an Intelliframe on the Mag, and I haven't adjusted the gap, assuming it was fine, but I don't think there's a 1/16 gap between the trigger and rod. Is it crucial? I'm just wondering if I'm having shoot down problems from potentially not releasing the trigger all the way. If that's not an issue, I won't mess around with it. It's an otherwise stock gun - I had thought that the Intelliframe being an AGD product would mean no messing around, but that may not be the case. Jordan __________________ *POG Member #952* Currently owned: Typhoon-Hurricane conversion #P1710 My Feedback: http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/f...-feedback.html

08-08-2008, 12:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
minimag03 MCB Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bluefield, WV	Did you buy the marker new or used? Some people mess with the trigger rod length to try to give their marker a trigger job. __________________ Smackz.com Feeback Gallery

08-08-2008, 12:50 PM	#5 (permalink)
usagi_tetsu Active Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO	You're probably right that it is the tank reg. I've never seen shootdown due to trigger rod gap. Of course, all you need to adjust the trigger rod gap is a good pair of pliers or visegrips and screw the trigger rod in or out. It can't hurt anything to get the prescribed gap in there, and if it fixes the problem, then you're golden. __________________ WWVD? Sometimes, you just have to ask yourself, "What would Velcor do?" My Feedback TOG

08-08-2008, 05:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
Jordan This space is vacant. Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Vineland, Ontario	I bought all the parts from Mr.Big, and assembled it. The sear is stock - I had one from a parts kit I got several years ago - so I believe that the length is unchanged. I'll have my new reg on my tank tomorrow, and try it out before I start monkeying with the trigger rod - I don't want to change too many things without eliminating the most obvious things first, and if it's just the reg that was causing it, I'll be happy. Jordan __________________ *POG Member #952* Currently owned: Typhoon-Hurricane conversion #P1710 My Feedback: http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/f...-feedback.html

08-08-2008, 05:32 PM	#7 (permalink)
minimag03 MCB Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bluefield, WV	If you have a caliper then you can check the length of the rod yourself. That is how they adjust them at the factory. The "1/16 gap" is to give you an idea if the rod needs to be adjusted. __________________ Smackz.com Feeback Gallery

08-07-2008, 11:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
Cunha MCB Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Monterey, CA	You need 800 psi into classic mags. RT's can go down a little lower like 600-650.

08-08-2008, 06:17 PM	#8 (permalink)
russc Newbie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC	Forget fiddling with the rod until you get a proper tank on there. Best to eliminate problems one at a time. __________________ YouTube Channel / Raincouver! / Gallery / Feedback / Blackleaf Outfitters I will be a complete and total douchebag towards any player who is trying to pull a DMW.

08-10-2008, 05:03 PM	#10 (permalink)
Cunha MCB Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Monterey, CA	If you are even a bit confident about the trigger rod being in stock location I would leave it as is. Fortunately tampered with rods are becoming less and less common So it is probably just the too low input pressure.

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