almost done but i have a few question

pk5 · 10-10-2008, 02:02 AM

For the sear, since i am using an emag valve, i need to use an emag sear right?

Do i need anything to put on the axel pin to make it fit? Right now the axel pin that i pull off of an rt rail is much smaller than the hole for the sear.

Are emag sear longer than regular rt sear?

Thanks

Whee McGee · 10-10-2008, 03:22 AM

There's classic sear/pin and Emag sear/pin AFAIK. They don't have to do with the valve; they're dependent on the rail.
Not sure about the second part of your questions, though.

dukie · 10-10-2008, 09:42 AM

Emag sears have all the extra bits on the lower end for connecting up with the solenoid. The upper portion of all mag sears is functionally the same, except for the sear pin hole ( some have bushings, some don't, etc). It should not make any differerence what valve you use as long as you have a matched combination of sear, sear pin, and rail.

pk5 · 10-10-2008, 05:48 PM

Sorry about the confusion for the second part:

Right now i have 2 sear, 1 with bushing that fit the sear pin perfectly, and one without bushing that does not fit the sear pin perfectly. But sear pin hole for the the second sear ( it came with the emag valve), seem to be bigger than the sear pin, but smaller than the bushing, so that the bushing from the other sear would not fit, yet at the same time the hole is too big for just the pin alone.

Do i need somekind of bushing that is smaller for the second sear pin?

The second sear pin is also about 1/8 of an inch longer than the first sear pin when comparing length.

thanks

dukie · 10-10-2008, 07:42 PM

Does your sear look like this?

then its an emag sear

if it looks like this :

Its an RT Sear or RT pro sear

if it looks like this:

Its a classic sear

Do you have 2 emag sears, 1 with bushing and 1 without? Or 2 of the other sears ?

pk5 · 10-10-2008, 07:44 PM

It seem like i have 1 classic and 1 RT sear

Do i need to get a specific sear pin to use the classic? Or should i just use the RT sear with the phoenix rail?

thanks

dukie · 10-10-2008, 07:53 PM

Yeah, the classic takes a straight pin ( like a dowel) no screw on it. It drops into the top of the rail before you put the body on ( no screw hole on the side). If the pin you have fits the rail you have, use the rt sear.

you can buy axle pins at agd

If you cannot use the classic sear with that frame due to the type of pin, I just happen to need a classic sear

let me know if you want to get rid of it.

going_home · 10-11-2008, 01:07 AM

That body takes an RT Pro sear and pin.

pk5 · 10-11-2008, 03:05 AM

cool thanks, installing that one right now, just have to wait for the glue on the ram pin to dry.

going_home · 10-11-2008, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by pk5

cool thanks, installing that one right now, just have to wait for the glue on the ram pin to dry.

Why are you gluing the sear pin in ?
Dont you have an RT Pro sear pin ?

10-10-2008, 02:02 AM	#1 (permalink)
pk5 MCB Member Join Date: Sep 2006	almost done but i have a few question For the sear, since i am using an emag valve, i need to use an emag sear right? Do i need anything to put on the axel pin to make it fit? Right now the axel pin that i pull off of an rt rail is much smaller than the hole for the sear. Are emag sear longer than regular rt sear? Thanks

10-10-2008, 03:22 AM	#2 (permalink)
Whee McGee Active Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Southern California	There's classic sear/pin and Emag sear/pin AFAIK. They don't have to do with the valve; they're dependent on the rail. Not sure about the second part of your questions, though. __________________ Feedback: AO, The Nation, and here

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going_home Hebrews 13:8 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Valrico Florida	RT Pro Sear That body takes an RT Pro sear and pin. __________________ Say what you mean. Mean what you say. http://www.liveprayer.com/fitna.cfm

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10-10-2008, 09:42 AM	#3 (permalink)
dukie MCB Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Kitchener, Ontario	Emag sears have all the extra bits on the lower end for connecting up with the solenoid. The upper portion of all mag sears is functionally the same, except for the sear pin hole ( some have bushings, some don't, etc). It should not make any differerence what valve you use as long as you have a matched combination of sear, sear pin, and rail.

10-10-2008, 05:48 PM	#4 (permalink)
pk5 MCB Member Join Date: Sep 2006	Sorry about the confusion for the second part: Right now i have 2 sear, 1 with bushing that fit the sear pin perfectly, and one without bushing that does not fit the sear pin perfectly. But sear pin hole for the the second sear ( it came with the emag valve), seem to be bigger than the sear pin, but smaller than the bushing, so that the bushing from the other sear would not fit, yet at the same time the hole is too big for just the pin alone. Do i need somekind of bushing that is smaller for the second sear pin? The second sear pin is also about 1/8 of an inch longer than the first sear pin when comparing length. thanks

10-10-2008, 07:42 PM	#5 (permalink)
dukie MCB Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Kitchener, Ontario	Does your sear look like this? then its an emag sear if it looks like this : Its an RT Sear or RT pro sear if it looks like this: Its a classic sear Do you have 2 emag sears, 1 with bushing and 1 without? Or 2 of the other sears ?

10-10-2008, 07:44 PM	#6 (permalink)
pk5 MCB Member Join Date: Sep 2006	It seem like i have 1 classic and 1 RT sear Do i need to get a specific sear pin to use the classic? Or should i just use the RT sear with the phoenix rail? thanks

10-10-2008, 07:53 PM	#7 (permalink)
dukie MCB Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Kitchener, Ontario	Yeah, the classic takes a straight pin ( like a dowel) no screw on it. It drops into the top of the rail before you put the body on ( no screw hole on the side). If the pin you have fits the rail you have, use the rt sear. you can buy axle pins at agd If you cannot use the classic sear with that frame due to the type of pin, I just happen to need a classic sear let me know if you want to get rid of it.

10-11-2008, 03:05 AM	#9 (permalink)
pk5 MCB Member Join Date: Sep 2006	cool thanks, installing that one right now, just have to wait for the glue on the ram pin to dry.