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Old 02-08-2009, 11:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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My roomie and I played a little outlaw ball today, him with his new cocker and I with my mag classic. I'm fairly happy with it, though I was having a lot of broken paint, and due to the weather it was hard to clean. If my lvl 7 bolt end up covered in paint every 50 rounds or so, what could be the problem?

I have a classic valve with right hand feed body, 32* frame and I'm running HPA from the asa at the bottom of my frame.

I think thats all the info you guys need, right?
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Old 02-08-2009, 11:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What sort of bolt do you have? If it's a foamie bolt and you're not using foamies that could be the problem. Are you using large bore paint with a small bore barrel?
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Old 02-08-2009, 11:28 PM   #3 (permalink)
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What sort of bolt do you have? If it's a foamie bolt and you're not using foamies that could be the problem. Are you using large bore paint with a small bore barrel?
It's a lvl 7 bolt, I'm not sure how to tell if it should use foamies. I'm using a boomstick with all kinds of different paint, Evil, Allstar, Blizzard and others. Most seem to roll out, the blizz fits nice though.
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Old 02-08-2009, 11:33 PM   #4 (permalink)
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How cold is it in Nova Scotia? Are you using winter paint? Part of it could be the paint doesn't like the cold.

I believe a foamieless bolt the tip sticks out a bit, whereas with a foamie bolt it's more pushed in... if that makes any sense.

What velocity were you shooting at?
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Old 02-09-2009, 12:24 AM   #5 (permalink)
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If you have a stock bolt, you don't need a foamie.

What kind of hopper do you have? If it's anything lower than a force feed, there's your problem.

If you can't load the paint fast enough, you get chops. The lower the chops, you need a forcefeed and/or level 10 bolt.
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Also, check the black plug on the power feed tube. Is it a defective one?
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How cold is it in Nova Scotia? Are you using winter paint? Part of it could be the paint doesn't like the cold.

I believe a foamieless bolt the tip sticks out a bit, whereas with a foamie bolt it's more pushed in... if that makes any sense.

What velocity were you shooting at?
Velocity was pretty unknown. With HPA I think I was shooting 250-280, put in C02 and I was around 320 for a couple shots.
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If you have a stock bolt, you don't need a foamie.

What kind of hopper do you have? If it's anything lower than a force feed, there's your problem.

If you can't load the paint fast enough, you get chops. The lower the chops, you need a forcefeed and/or level 10 bolt.
I'm using a gravity fed hopper. low rate of fire though. I think I only chopped once, the rest seem to have broken on the bolt face.
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Also, check the black plug on the power feed tube. Is it a defective one?
http://www.automagsuk.com/otherimage...feed~plugs.JPG
No powerfeed, it's a right hand feed that the previous owner cut down to about the same length as a cocker neck.
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The problem is you're using a hopper that relies on vibration to feed a marker that doesn't kick when fired. Plus it's not a powerfeed.

Also, if a ball is rolling out your barrel with the detent installed then it needs to be replaced.

Both of those things probably led to the broken paint.
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