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[Pif]

I've been thinking about getting a retro valve recently, and I wanted peoples opinions on it. Is it all it's cracked up to be? Is there any extra maintainance? Is it simply a valve swap and thats it?

[pk5]

Do you mean the retro valve or the X valve? They are essentially the same design, and both function the same way.

As with move valve, the valve swap is the same, with a few exception such as putting it into a classic RT, or mag that the sear have been adjusted. Maintaince for the valve is not much, just basically shoot a few drop of oil through them once a while, but there isn't any real need for lubing like electros.

[Pif]

Originally Posted by pk5

Do you mean the retro valve or the X valve? They are essentially the same design, and both function the same way.

As with move valve, the valve swap is the same, with a few exception such as putting it into a classic RT, or mag that the sear have been adjusted. Maintaince for the valve is not much, just basically shoot a few drop of oil through them once a while, but there isn't any real need for lubing like electros.

Retro, as x valves are waaaay out of my price range.

[fastev]

As I understand it, the Retro and the X are the same thing, the exception being the reg section on the Retro is machined from stainless rather than aluminum.

[Zoo]

Also, IIRC some Retro valves don't accept the ULE on/off without some machining.

And fastev: congrats on your boys' beating up on the Bruins. That was a great game to watch!

[Nobody]

yes, ReTro valves work the same way as X valves, but are differently named(of course) and may be stainless compared to the aluminium of an X valve. other than that, they are virtually the same.

side note: ReTro is just the name, since AGD took the effect of the RT mags, but with the standard mag plumbing, i.e. input in the side of the valve, instead of the RT's gas through the rail method. hence the captialized R & T in the name ReTro. with that, using a ReTro or x Valve brings the performance up to the RT standard. and they don't like Co2.

[idkfa]

I thought RT Valves were on the RT Mags, ReTro Valves were on the original Classic RTs (this incompatible with any other model), and the X-Valves were first seen on the X-Mags. I believe the E-Mags had the "E-Mag" valve, which was just a re-branded RT Valve. Is that right?

[Zoo]

I think all the statements are correct except these two:

Originally Posted by idkfa

ReTro Valves were on the original Classic RTs (this incompatible with any other model), and the X-Valves were first seen on the X-Mags.

The "Retro Valve" was after the Classic "RT" valve. The Retro valve doesn't use the air-thru banjo fitting into the bottom of the valve, it uses the standard side input so it can be swapped with other valves, unlike the Classic RT valve.
Also, I'm pretty sure E-mag valves were first used on the X-mag, with the X valves coming soon after.

[idkfa]

Oh okay, cool! I figured the ReTro came first, not the other way around. I remember a video of Tom Kaye showing off the X-Mags with X-Valve, I assumed they were the first.

[mjlynnjr]

It is a direct replacement (Drop in upgrade) for any ULE or stainless body. The Retro Valve provides a nice kick-back feeling to the trigger after a trigger pull. You also have an option of using an adjustable high pressure reg and tank to make the trigger more reactive. (As in the trigger can be set to bounce off your finger at higher input pressures close to 1000 PSI making it near full-auto in effect) I have owned them before, but have found that I enjoy just a plain old Classic valve for my shooting style. I just don't feel the need to shoot more than 3-4 balls per second to get an opponent out. It can be fun at times, but the classic will do more than enough for your needs. Also, the Classic Valve allows the use of CO2 and compressed air.....where you are limited to Compressed Air only on the Retro Valve. Hope that helps! -Mike