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Old 11-05-2009, 11:50 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Here is a dumb question.... will it screw into the valve okay when its not on the rail?
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Old 11-05-2009, 11:51 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Here is a dumb question.... will it screw into the valve okay when its not on the rail?
I did try that and no luck


I know there is an old tap and dye set buried in the garage. What is the difference between a bottoming and a plug tap?
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Old 11-06-2009, 12:27 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Nothing, a bottoming tap and a plug tap are the same thing.
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:26 AM   #14 (permalink)
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The difference is in the lead length. Longest is taper, then plug, then bottom. Bottom gets you threads closest to the bottom of a blind hole. Otherwise the tap nose hits the bottom and can't get any deeper. The longer leads help you start a new thread. Plug taps are most common, being in between, and might get all the thread you need. However, if you are buying a tap to fix this particular problem and have a choice for about the same price, a bottom tap would be more suitable.

Taper tap...

Plug tap..


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Old 11-06-2009, 09:14 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:36 PM   #16 (permalink)
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yes thank you! this weekend we tap!
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Old 11-09-2009, 08:15 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I'd tap that...


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Old 11-09-2009, 05:09 PM   #18 (permalink)
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There also could be some tolerance issues with the rail, gripframe and rail bushing you are using. I have an omega rail that does not seem to like the newer style bushings, the copper plated ones. Gripframes fit good on the rail, but it was impossible to screw in the thumbscrew into the valve without force. Using an older steel bushing (with bigger hole tolerance) fixed the problem.

AGD switched to the copper plated bushings so there would be less play on the valve, i believe this was needed for the RT valves, but i'm not sure.
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looks like the threads inside the valve are messed up, and the taper tap set I found aren't helping. Next is a bottom tap I guess.
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Old 11-12-2009, 01:32 AM   #20 (permalink)
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still messing with it but it does go in a couple threads deeper! yay for progress
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