Ultralite a Dragon Body? (I know it'll be expensive)

DevinKato · 01-05-2012, 01:03 PM

Looking for someone to take the project of lightening a Timmy Dragon body.

I don't care about preserving the dragon cosmetic details, just as getting as light as possible. I love the fact that the dragon is one of only billet machined Timmys out there, and would like to take it to the next level.

I'm thinking that the main amount of work would be focused around:
Rounding over both bottom and top tubes as much as possible
Cutting window in bottom tube, exposing all nonsealing portions of the ram sleeve
Chopping down top tube

I realize this may have to be done via CNC and may be expensive. A plus of this is that Timmys have the same body/air passage dimensions/locations and a well written program could be used for the future.

Let me know if anyone knows of a machinist that may be interested in picking this project up.

BigOldSkool · 01-06-2012, 12:04 AM

FYI classic timmys were billet too, mine shoots like a champ.

alpha434 · 01-06-2012, 12:14 AM

Which intimidators weren't billet?

I'm under the impression that they all are. Even the Valken G6R's are billet made in china.

DevinKato · 01-06-2012, 12:14 AM

really? IIRC, they were made from the same extrusions that bob used for the millenium bodies (failed spyder clone), which is why they needed that funky back block to accommodate the longer ram.

alpha434 · 01-06-2012, 12:38 AM

An extrusion is billet. Most billet is extruded square or round. Some is extruded with a couple holes in it. It's a time-saving choice, not a quality-reducing choice.

DevinKato · 01-06-2012, 12:51 AM

sorry, dragons, species, and rippers are milled from a solid block. All other intimidators are milled from extruded blocks.

alpha434 · 01-06-2012, 12:54 AM

All I'm saying is that those "solid blocks" were also extrusions. Therefore, there is no difference. Take it as my expert opinion.

Actually, if the only difference that you're going on is the length of the guns, then it's extremely likely that the Dragons were also "hollow" extrusions. They just weren't cut an inch short before he started on them. Oddly enough, I may be in a position to ask the man himself tomorrow afternoon.

01-05-2012, 01:03 PM	#1 (permalink)
DevinKato Newbie Join Date: Oct 2008	Ultralite a Dragon Body? (I know it'll be expensive) Looking for someone to take the project of lightening a Timmy Dragon body. I don't care about preserving the dragon cosmetic details, just as getting as light as possible. I love the fact that the dragon is one of only billet machined Timmys out there, and would like to take it to the next level. I'm thinking that the main amount of work would be focused around: Rounding over both bottom and top tubes as much as possible Cutting window in bottom tube, exposing all nonsealing portions of the ram sleeve Chopping down top tube I realize this may have to be done via CNC and may be expensive. A plus of this is that Timmys have the same body/air passage dimensions/locations and a well written program could be used for the future. Let me know if anyone knows of a machinist that may be interested in picking this project up.

01-06-2012, 12:04 AM	#2 (permalink)
BigOldSkool MCB Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Deer Park, NY	FYI classic timmys were billet too, mine shoots like a champ. __________________ RIP - Ed "BigDaddy" Roth and "Indian" Larry "Reading APG does not make you an airtech" Wild Geese - Coney Isand White Fish - Brotrocity - ECA BOS's Feedback! What Serial Number Is Your Cocker? WTB

01-06-2012, 12:14 AM	#3 (permalink)
alpha434 like a Stegosaurus. Join Date: May 2008	Which intimidators weren't billet? I'm under the impression that they all are. Even the Valken G6R's are billet made in china. __________________ Don't Freak Out. (Barrel) *A small upgrade for your Flex mask... (Ears)* Get your custom Ball Sizers right here! <-- NEW PRODUCT OFFERINGS 2/24/12 *The RIGHT kind of protection....! (Raincover)* Re-thread your gun for the Autococker Barrel standard The ReVents mask: It's what Russc wears. Cool Pro 2 (Mask)

01-06-2012, 12:38 AM	#5 (permalink)
alpha434 like a Stegosaurus. Join Date: May 2008	An extrusion is billet. Most billet is extruded square or round. Some is extruded with a couple holes in it. It's a time-saving choice, not a quality-reducing choice. __________________ Don't Freak Out. (Barrel) *A small upgrade for your Flex mask... (Ears)* Get your custom Ball Sizers right here! <-- NEW PRODUCT OFFERINGS 2/24/12 *The RIGHT kind of protection....! (Raincover)* Re-thread your gun for the Autococker Barrel standard The ReVents mask: It's what Russc wears. Cool Pro 2 (Mask)

01-06-2012, 12:54 AM	#7 (permalink)
alpha434 like a Stegosaurus. Join Date: May 2008	All I'm saying is that those "solid blocks" were also extrusions. Therefore, there is no difference. Take it as my expert opinion. Actually, if the only difference that you're going on is the length of the guns, then it's extremely likely that the Dragons were also "hollow" extrusions. They just weren't cut an inch short before he started on them. Oddly enough, I may be in a position to ask the man himself tomorrow afternoon. __________________ Don't Freak Out. (Barrel) *A small upgrade for your Flex mask... (Ears)* Get your custom Ball Sizers right here! <-- NEW PRODUCT OFFERINGS 2/24/12 *The RIGHT kind of protection....! (Raincover)* Re-thread your gun for the Autococker Barrel standard The ReVents mask: It's what Russc wears. Cool Pro 2 (Mask) Last edited by alpha434; 01-06-2012 at 01:01 AM.

01-06-2012, 12:14 AM	#4 (permalink)
DevinKato Newbie Join Date: Oct 2008	really? IIRC, they were made from the same extrusions that bob used for the millenium bodies (failed spyder clone), which is why they needed that funky back block to accommodate the longer ram.

01-06-2012, 12:51 AM	#6 (permalink)
DevinKato Newbie Join Date: Oct 2008	sorry, dragons, species, and rippers are milled from a solid block. All other intimidators are milled from extruded blocks.

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