Need WAS help on Excal.

Marmaduke · 11-13-2007, 10:27 PM

I just installed my new WAS board on my Excal. Solenoid for firing doesn't want to go. It will cycle just fine though.

I don't have eyes. The LED tells me it's in eye bypass mode. I don't have eyes so I assume this is correct.

I did have a soldering job done on the wires that connect the solenoid to the board. Could that have anything to do with the problem? They work fine on the Nelson board. Guy who did it is a gun tech.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Marm

Treadstone · 11-13-2007, 11:03 PM

What type of noids and what is your dwell set at? My guess would be you need to up your dwell especially if you have MACs in the gun.

Marmaduke · 11-13-2007, 11:28 PM

MAC noids.

The solenoid doesn't click at all. At least not that I can hear.

I'll try upping the Dwell though.

Treadstone · 11-14-2007, 08:35 AM

Off the top of my head I think MACs need around 10-12 in an excal, the Humphreys are down in th 6-8 range. I had a older Excal that had the same problem and upping the dwell cured it right away, also had one that had a bad solder job on the wiring and needed a touch up with the soldering iron to work right.

incynr8 · 11-14-2007, 08:40 AM

yes MAC even up to 13
Humps 6-8, usually 7. I like 7-8.

cockerpunk · 11-14-2007, 09:45 AM

put your finger on the noid when your shooting it, that will let you detect better if that noid is really cycling.

Marmaduke · 11-14-2007, 03:15 PM

Okay.

The Dwell is at 15. I'm going to lower it to 12 and then up the input pressure.

Thanks guys.

Bartman · 11-16-2007, 05:38 PM

You have retried the nelson board? if you have and messing with the dwell dosn't help withthe was board, you may vary well havea messed up was board, it happens. nothing you can really do with out sendingit back to Mr Drew , but buy the time you ship it back and forth and he charges you an un goddly amount to fix it, your better off jsut finding a Used pandora board on line.

But you all doing everything a tech would do to sess out the problem.Keep up the work, but at some point you have to say screw it and get a diffrent board.

Don't get me wrong I am not saying that this only happens to a WAS board, it happens to all types of boards.

Bartman

custar · 11-18-2007, 09:42 PM

I had similar issue with not one but two Pandora boards at the same time. Both were fried. I put in my old Nelson board, and the marker worked again just fine except I need to up the debounce. Since the Excalibur that has the Nelson board is blind, I don't intend on changing out the board.

Barman is right; recheck with the Nelson board. If you have another AKA available, try the WAS board in it as a check.

custar

Marmaduke · 11-19-2007, 11:53 PM

It's working now.

The dwell is set at 15. Haven't played with the debounce yet.

Thanks for the help guys.

11-13-2007, 11:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
Treadstone MCB Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: S. Jersey	What type of noids and what is your dwell set at? My guess would be you need to up your dwell especially if you have MACs in the gun. __________________ MCB feedback XIII Legionnaires

11-14-2007, 08:35 AM	#4 (permalink)
Treadstone MCB Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: S. Jersey	Off the top of my head I think MACs need around 10-12 in an excal, the Humphreys are down in th 6-8 range. I had a older Excal that had the same problem and upping the dwell cured it right away, also had one that had a bad solder job on the wiring and needed a touch up with the soldering iron to work right. __________________ MCB feedback XIII Legionnaires

11-14-2007, 08:40 AM	#5 (permalink)
incynr8 Flaky Admin Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Amidst the Forest Creatures	yes MAC even up to 13 Humps 6-8, usually 7. I like 7-8. __________________

11-14-2007, 09:45 AM	#6 (permalink)
cockerpunk MCB Member Join Date: Jul 2006	put your finger on the noid when your shooting it, that will let you detect better if that noid is really cycling. __________________ the ultimate truth in paintball is that the interaction between the gun and the player is far and away the largest factor in accuracy, consistency, and reliability. >>PAINTBALL SCIENCE!<< "Originally posted by Garbageman705: Arguing with Cockerpunk is like fighting a T-Rex. Your going to get your *** kicked."

11-16-2007, 05:38 PM	#8 (permalink)
Bartman Rec Poster Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Danville VA	You have retried the nelson board? if you have and messing with the dwell dosn't help withthe was board, you may vary well havea messed up was board, it happens. nothing you can really do with out sendingit back to Mr Drew , but buy the time you ship it back and forth and he charges you an un goddly amount to fix it, your better off jsut finding a Used pandora board on line. But you all doing everything a tech would do to sess out the problem.Keep up the work, but at some point you have to say screw it and get a diffrent board. Don't get me wrong I am not saying that this only happens to a WAS board, it happens to all types of boards. Bartman __________________ Bartman the canadian living over there

11-18-2007, 09:42 PM	#9 (permalink)
custar Post Whore Join Date: Apr 2006	I had similar issue with not one but two Pandora boards at the same time. Both were fried. I put in my old Nelson board, and the marker worked again just fine except I need to up the debounce. Since the Excalibur that has the Nelson board is blind, I don't intend on changing out the board. Barman is right; recheck with the Nelson board. If you have another AKA available, try the WAS board in it as a check. custar

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