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Old 05-09-2007, 09:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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quick karnivor question

well this one should probably be easy to answer. How come you can't* use the STO asa on the karnivor when u put a pump kit on it? Thanks in advance you guys!

EDIT: sry drastic mispell led to wrong question.
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Old 05-10-2007, 08:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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2 ways, tap the body 1/8th NPT, and use a mini-cocker asa, or Palmers SS asa adaptor, or buy a CCM mini cocker kit......................
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Old 05-10-2007, 10:42 PM   #3 (permalink)
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i'm mostly asking this because i absolutely love the karni's body and reversed 15 asa, but if u'd have to have a vert one and couldn't use the stock asa....it ruins the look a bit IMO.
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Old 05-10-2007, 11:49 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Many people leave the standard asa on, and dont cut the body, they just cut the ram mount off. Then mount a pumpkit on the front...................
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Old 05-11-2007, 12:40 PM   #5 (permalink)
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ah so its because of the ram mount....thanks a lot for that!
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Old 05-11-2007, 05:22 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I'm suprized no one hasn't figured out the easy way to make a pump kit that's goe through the stock ram mount....oh wait, I have Haven't done it yet, but the theory is stupid simple,

Since if you're making a karni pump you'll need to modify the pump rod anyways (it's too short if using the stock front block/angles vertical), make the pump arm much shorter. Put a slight bend in it and have it go THROUGH the stock ram mount. Thread the end and then screw the stock semi pump arm into it. Add a nylon or delrin threaded insert into the ram mount to keep things pumping smooth.

So now you have a pump karni (would work with a trilogy too), and you can still convert it back to semi when ever you want.
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Old 05-11-2007, 08:55 PM   #7 (permalink)
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PMP makes a kit for Trilogy's with a bend in the pump rod, so you dont have to cut off the ram mount. The pump rod is prolly too short for a Karni though, but it wouldnt be hard to get some rod and make a simple jig.....................
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Old 05-15-2007, 06:41 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I hate, hate, HATE it when people mutilate their Karnivors and slap a mini kit on them. It turns the flowing Karni into a stubby standard cocker. It completely disrupts the organic flow of the body. If you are going to convert a gun as unique and identifiable as a Karnivor, at least leave its distinctive visual features alone.

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