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Old 05-15-2007, 12:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
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WGP Snipers

I picked up 2 snipers and had some questions.
What S/N did sniper I's end, and how can you tell the difference between the I's and II's. I have also seen people call some snipers 1 1/2. What makes it a 1 1/2? I looked at vintage rex and it says sniper I's ended at 1000.
I have also seen snipers with higher S/N with the Sheridan frames and not the wgp frames these have. Are these frames wrong for these guns or did they switch over to these frames before then?
Also some one posted a cocker S/N to year list and I have been trying to find it, with no luck.
Well here are some pics of the new additions.



If you look at the last pic you can see there is no S/N and the 2nd pic is S/N 1119. The guy I got them from said he got them from someone that worked for Bud and the one with no S/N was a prototype of some sort. I'm guessing it is a prototype of the II's.
What would these be worth?
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Old 05-15-2007, 08:28 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Hey.. very cool!!

Ok, VR needs to be updated if that's what it says... The Sniper 1's, ended somewhere around 1300 or so... No idea what number was the last, but somewhere, they just stopped.

The sniper II's, they RE-started at 2000 and up.

So there is a gap in numbers between the two that never existed.


We call them sniper 1 1/2's because it is a sniper II body, but with the left over sniper 1 parts. (pump, back block, etc). Which just makes it cool.

Now the Sniper 1's you can still get for some good money with collectors... $250.00 to $350.00 and higher if it has a "sat cong" sticker on it.

The sniper II's, well... they just suck in price to put it bluntly. It's cool that it doesn't have a number. Most likely because someone worked there and asked for it to not have one... or, like you said, could be one of the first few produced... Nothing on it screams prototype.... And if you saw Bud Orr's Sniper 1 prototype, then you would know what I mean.

Someone here had a sniper II with a "R" on it, for rental, which was really rare to me, but he still couldn't give the darn thing away almost. Maybe $150.00 at best for the Sniper II.


So, in conclusion... $350.00 for the Sniper I (You should be able to get that), and $150 for the Sniper II, and hope for the best.
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Old 05-15-2007, 01:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks Carter
This clears up a lot. What about the frames? I have seen higher S/N guns with the Sheridan frames? The 1119 looks like the guy I got it from just took off the sticker. You can see the square in this pic.
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Old 05-15-2007, 02:02 PM   #4 (permalink)
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isn't another distinction between sniper I's and II's the dovetail rail? thats what i had used mostly to distinguish between the two.
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That isn't the shape of the Sat Cong sticker.


They're a lot longer. Not sure what the little square would be.
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Yeah... It's just an upgraded frame on both of the snipers and not original. The later Sniper II's, and then autocockers had those frames.
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What about the machining marks and the lack of sight rail in the first one with the serial number?

I held that one the other day and it looks like it was machined and not extruded. There are also holes for a sight rail.
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Can someone post a pic of the Sniper I prototypes?
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