Paintball

[Brewtt]

Originally Posted by B

Do not use a rechable battery also do not use a duracell battery they can fry the selonoid and board. cheap generic 9v are best ( procell are best if you can find them)

Funny... I just checked my E2 frame manual and it says:

Rechargeable batteries can also be used in the E2 frame. We recommend Nickel Metal Hydride (NiMH) rechargeable that have a true voltage of 9.0 to 9.6 Volts. NOTE: Most commercially available NiMH batteries are only 8.4 Volts. However, it is important that no battery charge exceeds 9.6 Volt. Damage to the circuit board could result from using a Battery charged to more than 9.6 Volts.

B... seems you are contradicting Eclipse E2 literature with BOTH of your claims. What say you now? Why would they suggest these things if they would fry our boards?

[Brewtt]

I suppose it's easier to name-drop and then ignore the thread when presented with evidence to the contrary of your claim.

[rob123456789]

i think it should be good now. I took the noid out and cleaned it and put a new battery and I shot about 1000 rounds through. thanks for all of your help.

[Brewtt]

Come on B...

You NEED to back your claims with more than a name drop here. I've posted official documentation... you have just thrown out random claims and a name.

I'm calling you to task on this one.

Not because I'm a jerk... but because I own an E2 frame and I'm curious about your claims that BOTH seem to be in direct contradiction with Eclipse E2 literature. Just want more information so I know more about my frame (which is going on a Blazer soon.)

Man up and explain... or admit ignorance. Don't just disappear when contradicted.

[B]

The manual was written well before the grip frames were released ask eclipse them selves they recommend low end standard batteries. I do not need to prove my self to you and I do not need to post immoderately for impatient people who do not believe what has been told to them. Not everything printed in manuals is correct remember they are written by cubicle not withs who only see ideal circumstances not the real world. There are very few instances that a manual is actually representative of the actual product it ships with. If you knew anything you should well know this.


Shh don't tell any one but the manual for the 08 guns is all ready written, even as the gun still has several months of testing to go.

[Brewtt]

Originally Posted by B

I do not need to prove my self to you and I do not need to post immoderately for impatient people who do not believe what has been told to them.
...

If you knew anything you should well know this.

Wow... you are always the one saying "Go do your research first." Well, I actually did and came back with documented conflicting info to your "know-it-all" hearsay info. So I came back in hopes for more information.

Ask for clarification on conflicting infos and get your head bit off AND insulted! AND nothing but "Believe me (some dude on the web called "B")... not the printed manual." You have any idea how silly that sounds?

Well, thanks but no thanks to your type of "help." You really are condescending how you treat people. Very insulting... and you're NOT always right. I've noticed it for a long time.


Anyone less rude have any input on this subject then?

[FirePro84]

As for battery usage on the E1 and E2 grip frames...

E1's will eat batteries if you leave them in there when not in use, the board has a tendency to continually draw powere from the battery even when turned off, this was a major issue that was fixed (at least somewhat) with the E2 and ZeroB boards.

Through my personal testing, Energizer Max batteries or NiMH rechargable batteries work best with the E2/ZeroB boards. The normal Duracell batteries have a tendancy to not pump enough power through the frame and cause the trigger solenoid only work intermittedly. Its either that or they die so quickly in the frames that it seems like there's not enough power. I've never heard of any Duracell's causing a board to go bad or frying the circuits...i'd like to see any reported cases of that so i may better research it to make better reccomendations to our customers...

I'd love to see where Jack posted his findings on battery usage, i'm sure he knows what he's talking about since he has more experience with eclipse products than any of us, but i'd still like to know, and any more info available would be nice as well.

[Brewtt]

Thanks Tim...

Now that's the kind of info I'm looking for. Someone giving a polite account of personal knowledge of the given subject backed by experience. Imagine that.

Originally Posted by FirePro84

...NiMH rechargable batteries work best with the E2/ZeroB boards...
I've never heard of any Duracell's causing a board to go bad or frying the circuits...i'd like to see any reported cases of that so i may better research it to make better reccomendations to our customers...

I'd love to see where Jack posted his findings on battery usage,...

Seems this is also another contradiction to B's claims that rechargeable batteries and Duracell batteries will fry the E2.

I also wanted to see jacks findings for myself, but B said I should just believe what he tells me.

Apparently B is the only one who knows these little E2 secrets of Jack's. I guess Eclipse is keeping this new E2 battery info in the dark... I suppose they wouldn't want the people who own E2 frames to know about it or anything.

[Brewtt]

Originally Posted by FirePro84

I'd love to see where Jack posted his findings on battery usage, i'm sure he knows what he's talking about since he has more experience with eclipse products than any of us, but i'd still like to know, and any more info available would be nice as well.

Appears B is staying silent.

I guess he is the ONLY one who knows this elusive "Jack Wood E2 battery info." Apparently NO ONE else has ever heard these little hints of Jack's.

Therefore... for anyone else reading the thread... all I can suggest is listen to Firepro(experienced with E2) and the E2 written manuals and website(official written documentation) for now.

[ta2maki]

The only thing I can think of that would support B's statement of duracell's 'frying a board'. Is reports that I read a many years back that Duracells had a tendancy to leak. Apparently, in order to pack more chemical in the battery to produce longer life, the casing was made thinner. Thus causing greater chances of leaking. If you get the battery leaking all over the board and damaging it, I guess you can call it fryed.

BTW, I have not heard of leaky Duracells for some time now.