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Old 06-09-2007, 02:32 AM   #11 (permalink)
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what about the c3? I want to get an Illusion so i can get an AM marker back but i dont want to spend that much on a gun im not gonna use a ton. How much does a stock Illusion go these days? without the sc feed.

You can get a new Illusion from APE for $160 last time I checked. Check the dealer's forum.
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Old 06-09-2007, 04:56 AM   #12 (permalink)
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You sure hit a nerve with THIS thread....

I'd have to suggest the SL68II as well. My avatar completly reflects how much I love mine.

I've got a couple of autococker based snipers, a WGP Ranger, a PMI Tagmaster and two SL68II's. Of the lot the SL's has by far the most character. The crudeness of the coarse castings and hunk of water pipe as a barrel do not in any way reflect the ease which this silly hunk o' metal can put tightly grouped balls on target.

The Phantom can do a better job but not by as much as you'd think and it's easily triple to quintuple the price of a basic SL68II.

If you go this route then definetly get a II model. The integrated gip frame and built in bottom line makes it not only more practical to use but cheaper and tougher as well.

I liken using my own SL68II's to stepping into a tough brawl with a crude but capable sawed off shotgun....
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Old 06-09-2007, 07:18 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I would definitely recommend the SL-68 II as well. It is an ultra-reliable 'gun that is suprisingly accurate and capable. As stated in earlier posts, it isn't as refined as say a Phantom or Sniper II, but it is a very good low-cost choice.

I own one now and have owned a few others over the years and I would recommend them without hesitation.

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Old 06-09-2007, 10:41 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I have never owned an SL-68II, but that is only because I have a lot of other pumps that work for me. If I ever find one at a reasonable price that looks to be in good shape, I plan on picking it up. They are sturdy and they are nigh indestructible......can't see how you could go wrong.
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Old 06-09-2007, 12:34 PM   #15 (permalink)
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what threaded barrels does the sl68 II's use?
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Old 06-09-2007, 01:15 PM   #16 (permalink)
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what threaded barrels does the sl68 II's use?
The Sl's don't have threads. They take the same barrel as the 68 specials.
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Old 06-09-2007, 02:09 PM   #17 (permalink)
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so really there is no need to upgrade the barrel?
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Old 06-09-2007, 03:04 PM   #18 (permalink)
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You can put a J&J on it, but they shoot fine with the stock barrel. I have a couple SL-68's I'm interested in selling. Let me know.
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Old 06-09-2007, 03:23 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I know it goes against all that is Holy but that hunk of water pipe that they laughingly call a barrel is amazingly accurate. The only real issue is that because of the lack of porting it has a helluva POP when dry firing and a sort of mettalic THWOP sound when firing paint that sounds a lot like the Hollywood mortar sound in the old war movies.

As long as the previous owners didn't stuff it with sand and shoot so that it's all scratched up then you can't really go wrong.
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Old 06-09-2007, 04:18 PM   #20 (permalink)
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If you want cheap and want a hopper on the thing, Id say Sl68II as well. If your wanting strock class, Nothing beats a Nel-Spot, throw a rear dropout on there and your set, set it up once and forget it, never a need to adjust anything again.
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