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Old 06-16-2007, 03:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok so what is it?

A buddy of mine found this in his garage and when he told me he had found an old PMI marker I got quite excited. Unfortunately this was not what I was expecting to see. I am not very familliar with electros at all and this one has a plastic E-Frame that says "Made by PMI" on it. It appears to be a Spyder clone of some sort but I was unable to find anything on line that looked exactly like it. It was apparently a rental at some point as it has the number "22" engraved on the ASA and has an expansion chamber on it stamped with the word "Perfect". Last note is that I can not find a serial number on it anywhere. We are curious as to exactly what it is as he is now intetrested in trying the game for the first time and if it needs parts I would like to be able to help him find them. Any assistance is greatly appreciated. I can get pics of the internals as well if it will help. Pics:


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that's one of the pirahhna spyder clones
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that's one of the pirahhna spyder clones

Yep that is what it is!
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So Spyder parts will fit it then? Any info on the model? Spyder threaded Barrels? Anything else I should know about it?
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Supposedly, some will, some won't. Spyder front blocks will, Spyder grip frames *should*, but the striker is different from new Spyders and--at least on my Pirahna--the connecting pin is thinner, so using Spyder bolts would be iffy.

Really, there's not much that *needs* done to it. They're solid to begin with.
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Grip frames don't, I bought a e grip for my spyder, it was from a Piranha and the holes don't line up, so I bought a Piranha for my e grip
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The barrel is Spyder thread, that's the only compatible parts.
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Actually. Older spyder parts (pre 2k) will work just fine. Valve is same, front block is same, screws are Imperial Inch, not metric like spyders', barrel is spyder threaded. Looks like a later model E-force frame on a GTI pirahna (or G3 or VL or BL) im not sure if a spyder bolt and hammer combo would fit the slot between the 2 tubes, but it is a possibilty.

As for other parts, to my knowledge, all semi auto pirahna parts interchange regardless of age.
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....As for other parts, to my knowledge, all semi auto pirahna parts interchange regardless of age.
Almost all. At some point between the version shown in this thread and the newer ones they altered the milling where the back block goes in and the web that joins the upper and lower portions of the back block is thicker on the new ones. I guess they had some cracking issues on the orginal version.

But the old back blocks will fit in the new bodies but there's just a gap.

This particular version is one of the old BL G models. The power feed means it was a G. Likely a G2 which were the cheaper ones. I believe that these were available in various forms from the very late 90's and shortly into the 2000's.

It's odd to not see the serial number imprinted on the right side near the back block. It's usually on the left side just below the back block retaining pin. And if you didn't figure it out yet it's a two finger mechanical frame. Not electro at all.
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