Custom DD68 or Custom Carter Box Gun?

cyanide ride · 06-26-2007, 10:05 AM

As some of you know, I've been after a DD for some time. I've been met with very helpful and friendly owners (ctownca) and I have been teased and taunted by others.

I've recently been in contact with someone who was selling a "Duck"

I'm a little skeptical of it's heritage however after seeing the pics. It does look like a custom Carter Box Gun *to me* but I have been known to be wrong every so often so I thought I'd ask before putting my neck out there.

I've asked for high res pics of the sides, but of these pics what do you guys think this is and what it's worth?

Thanks in advance for the assistance guys, I appreciate it.

WilD · 06-26-2007, 10:25 AM

Looks like a box gun (CIP Superstock) to me too. Good ones sell for around $600 I believe.

pwpaintball · 06-26-2007, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by WilD

Looks like a box gun (CIP Superstock) to me too. Good ones sell for around $600 I believe.

Agreed.

cyanide ride · 06-26-2007, 11:17 AM

Thanks for the help guys. CIP Superstock for $600.

Was Earon Carter the one who made these?.

Crash · 06-26-2007, 12:17 PM

One thing and if I am wrong someone will correct me but of the CIP's / Ducks I have seen the CIP have the feed tube mounted on top of the barrel while the Ducks have them off-set to the side.

Teimusan · 06-26-2007, 12:38 PM

Boxgun = CIP Super Stock. Same gun. After owning both duck and CIP, I prefer the boxgun. Lighter in weight, shoots darts if you get big bore paint. Most of the Super Stocks were sold through I & I Sports. back in the mid 90's. I think that I have an old APG from 96 that has an ad for I&I will the Boxgun. Orginal selling for only $375 if my memory is correct. The bore size is also .693 as advertised from I&I. You will need big paint to shoot well. Most high grade paint today just rolls right out of my barrel.

Another thing, be careful of the sights. They are just glued on. Mine fell off during a game. I send half of the day searching for it in the woods. Finally found it lucky me. Just make sure the glue is still holding the sight on ok. Just a tip from a fellow pump.

I just sold my duck recently myself. I kind of regret it, but I am still getting me Redux with a few extra goodies with custom plating so no worries.

If you don't want it, I have a fellow pumper that might want a CIP.

Later

Tim

Chaos · 06-26-2007, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cyanide ride

Thanks for the help guys. CIP Superstock for $600.

Was Earon Carter the one who made these?.

He did not make these,but,from what I understand did make a very similar one later on after these came out.The CIP Superstock was made by Check It Products ...Hence the CIP

cyanide ride · 06-26-2007, 01:53 PM

Ah, I see. I take it these barrels are not removable?

I was hoping someone would be able to break down what "CIP" was. I am still very interested in this, as I do want to have a boxgun in my collection.

I am looking at getting a redux as well, just the uncertainty of the release dates is what I get impatient about. It'd be nice to have one with all the options one would want.

I am new to the history of pumps, it's always good to tap into these history lessons once in awhile.

Shiba-Kun · 06-26-2007, 04:05 PM

Just for some small clarification...

Earon Cater helped make the original gun that Check-It Products would later mass produce as their Box/Super Stock paintgun.

A member of the Kamikaze Shooter was slightly dissatisfied w/ his Stock DD68. He took a Duck lower, barrel, etc. and had Earon mill the top pump handle etc.

Glen from CIP later used this gun to take specs from as he went about making his version.

BTW: The original CIP's had Uncle Mike grips. I still recall CIP setting up their account w/ UM's. The sites were originally created for CIP by the same owner of the original gun. He both made the model for the sights, casted them, etc.

DCB · 06-26-2007, 04:26 PM

Interesting... never knew about the CPI markers.

I have a new Carter Box-gun.

It has milled in adjustable Millett sights. The barrel (made by Sanchez from what I have heard) is a .688 or so, haven't measured it yet. I shoots great and the smaller paint did not roll out.

Peace

06-26-2007, 10:05 AM	#1 (permalink)
cyanide ride Rec Poster Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: E-Town, Canada	Custom DD68 or Custom Carter Box Gun? As some of you know, I've been after a DD for some time. I've been met with very helpful and friendly owners (ctownca) and I have been teased and taunted by others. I've recently been in contact with someone who was selling a "Duck" I'm a little skeptical of it's heritage however after seeing the pics. It does look like a custom Carter Box Gun to me but I have been known to be wrong every so often so I thought I'd ask before putting my neck out there. I've asked for high res pics of the sides, but of these pics what do you guys think this is and what it's worth? Thanks in advance for the assistance guys, I appreciate it.

06-26-2007, 10:25 AM	#2 (permalink)
WilD the MilD MOD Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Motor City	Looks like a box gun (CIP Superstock) to me too. Good ones sell for around $600 I believe. __________________ PGPOG #79 POG #1055 My Feedback

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Crash MCB Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Texas	One thing and if I am wrong someone will correct me but of the CIP's / Ducks I have seen the CIP have the feed tube mounted on top of the barrel while the Ducks have them off-set to the side. __________________ Later, John MY Want To Buy: Black 45 slider frame with internals Cheap 2k pump kit My feed back: http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=1021 Carter's Commando Texas Division: http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/c...-division.html

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DCB Pumper Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Jax, FL	Interesting... never knew about the CPI markers. I have a new Carter Box-gun. It has milled in adjustable Millett sights. The barrel (made by Sanchez from what I have heard) is a .688 or so, haven't measured it yet. I shoots great and the smaller paint did not roll out. Peace __________________ DCB<>< John 14:6 CPPA #1092 Pump Gun Pimp #80 LPPC #164 Feedback http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/f...html#post78710 Gallery http://www.mcarterbrown.com/gallery/...er=184&cat=500

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06-26-2007, 11:17 AM	#4 (permalink)
cyanide ride Rec Poster Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: E-Town, Canada	Thanks for the help guys. CIP Superstock for $600. Was Earon Carter the one who made these?.

06-26-2007, 12:38 PM	#6 (permalink)
Teimusan MCB Member Join Date: Apr 2006	Boxgun = CIP Super Stock. Same gun. After owning both duck and CIP, I prefer the boxgun. Lighter in weight, shoots darts if you get big bore paint. Most of the Super Stocks were sold through I & I Sports. back in the mid 90's. I think that I have an old APG from 96 that has an ad for I&I will the Boxgun. Orginal selling for only $375 if my memory is correct. The bore size is also .693 as advertised from I&I. You will need big paint to shoot well. Most high grade paint today just rolls right out of my barrel. Another thing, be careful of the sights. They are just glued on. Mine fell off during a game. I send half of the day searching for it in the woods. Finally found it lucky me. Just make sure the glue is still holding the sight on ok. Just a tip from a fellow pump. I just sold my duck recently myself. I kind of regret it, but I am still getting me Redux with a few extra goodies with custom plating so no worries. If you don't want it, I have a fellow pumper that might want a CIP. Later Tim

06-26-2007, 01:53 PM	#8 (permalink)
cyanide ride Rec Poster Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: E-Town, Canada	Ah, I see. I take it these barrels are not removable? I was hoping someone would be able to break down what "CIP" was. I am still very interested in this, as I do want to have a boxgun in my collection. I am looking at getting a redux as well, just the uncertainty of the release dates is what I get impatient about. It'd be nice to have one with all the options one would want. I am new to the history of pumps, it's always good to tap into these history lessons once in awhile.

06-26-2007, 04:05 PM	#9 (permalink)
Shiba-Kun MCB Member Join Date: Sep 2006	Just for some small clarification... Earon Cater helped make the original gun that Check-It Products would later mass produce as their Box/Super Stock paintgun. A member of the Kamikaze Shooter was slightly dissatisfied w/ his Stock DD68. He took a Duck lower, barrel, etc. and had Earon mill the top pump handle etc. Glen from CIP later used this gun to take specs from as he went about making his version. BTW: The original CIP's had Uncle Mike grips. I still recall CIP setting up their account w/ UM's. The sites were originally created for CIP by the same owner of the original gun. He both made the model for the sights, casted them, etc.