12 grams stuck...

brandonc14 · 07-12-2007, 11:25 PM

I was shooting a few rounds in my back yard today, I emptied my first 12 gram and put another one in. After I finshed went inside, unscrewed my fast change on my Pug, and the 12 gram didn't drop out. Did I screw in the fast changer too hard? If someone can throw in some ideas to get it out that'd be great! Thanks!

Brandon

Phantom Power · 07-12-2007, 11:27 PM

With the fasst changer removed, cock the gun and fire it. Usually just the force of the hammer hitting the valve will knock it loose.

CrazyBoy78 · 07-12-2007, 11:51 PM

I've actually got the same problem with my PGP and a buddy's PGP that I'm working on. The 12 gram won't slide out. It's loose inside that part of the body. Seems to be too big for the threads, even though it went in without a major problem. I'm hoping it's nothing serious since it'd be a pain to always have to disassemble everything and push it out with the valve. Both have fasst changers.

Z50 · 07-13-2007, 12:06 AM

My brother had a problem with game face cartridges being to big for a faast changer, he had to drill a hole in the back of the 12 gram to grab it and pull it out. What brand are you having problems with so I can let him know to steer clear of them?

CrazyBoy78 · 07-13-2007, 12:48 AM

Well, It was happening with both Brass Eagle and Crosman carts. BUT here's the thing: there was never a problem before. I've thought about it and I think it's just cuz my basement, where these two reside, is a bit on the cool side. Maybe if they were at a regular or slightly warmer temperature there wouldn't be a problem. Testing that as we speak...

brandonc14 · 07-13-2007, 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z50

My brother had a problem with game face cartridges being to big for a faast changer, he had to drill a hole in the back of the 12 gram to grab it and pull it out. What brand are you having problems with so I can let him know to steer clear of them?

I don't know the brand I'm using. I got it from Russ which he got it from a 12 gram dealer. She sells them to compressed gun competitors, which I guess they would be more of a better quality. They come in a white box with a picture of couple of 12 grams. I'm still figuring out how to pull out the 12 gram

chplnstone · 07-13-2007, 04:44 AM

ive had the problem, too especially with the pressure the fasst changers put on the peircer seal...if the seal is old, it gets squished around and wedges the 12 gram in...gets stuck between the sides of the neck and the seal holder...drill and pull, then check the seal

RoBo · 07-13-2007, 03:34 PM

I suspect you are using Crossman brand 12ers?

I am many others have had them stuck in so bad we have had to remove the valve to punch em out, drill a hole in the 12er to fish it out, ect.

I have out of desperation been using Brass egale powerlets now even with the sticker I am not having any issue -

The other ones that work well are the Copperheads (which are made by crossman go figure)

RoBo

brandonc14 · 07-13-2007, 04:03 PM

Thanks for the info guys, my last resort is to drill now...I'll get my dad to do it, no I'm not handicapped with tools, hes just better than me

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Brandon

Raynman · 07-13-2007, 06:46 PM

I've found copperheads to be smaller as well.

07-12-2007, 11:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
brandonc14 Active Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Vancouver, Canada	12 grams stuck... I was shooting a few rounds in my back yard today, I emptied my first 12 gram and put another one in. After I finshed went inside, unscrewed my fast change on my Pug, and the 12 gram didn't drop out. Did I screw in the fast changer too hard? If someone can throw in some ideas to get it out that'd be great! Thanks! Brandon

07-12-2007, 11:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
Phantom Power Pump Gun Dealer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pender Island, BC	With the fasst changer removed, cock the gun and fire it. Usually just the force of the hammer hitting the valve will knock it loose. __________________

07-12-2007, 11:51 PM	#3 (permalink)
CrazyBoy78 Classy Join Date: May 2006 Location: Mississauga, ON	I've actually got the same problem with my PGP and a buddy's PGP that I'm working on. The 12 gram won't slide out. It's loose inside that part of the body. Seems to be too big for the threads, even though it went in without a major problem. I'm hoping it's nothing serious since it'd be a pain to always have to disassemble everything and push it out with the valve. Both have fasst changers. __________________ Later........ Andry : ) [Party of A-5: Remember the Ewoks in Return of the Jedi? Now Imagine that with beavers.] Proud member of The Peacekeepers, UMSG JTF7, Rogue Cell #12 and CCABB My Feedback Stuff for Sale

07-13-2007, 12:48 AM	#5 (permalink)
CrazyBoy78 Classy Join Date: May 2006 Location: Mississauga, ON	Well, It was happening with both Brass Eagle and Crosman carts. BUT here's the thing: there was never a problem before. I've thought about it and I think it's just cuz my basement, where these two reside, is a bit on the cool side. Maybe if they were at a regular or slightly warmer temperature there wouldn't be a problem. Testing that as we speak... __________________ Later........ Andry : ) [Party of A-5: Remember the Ewoks in Return of the Jedi? Now Imagine that with beavers.] Proud member of The Peacekeepers, UMSG JTF7, Rogue Cell #12 and CCABB My Feedback Stuff for Sale

07-13-2007, 03:34 PM	#8 (permalink)
RoBo Active Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: MN	I suspect you are using Crossman brand 12ers? I am many others have had them stuck in so bad we have had to remove the valve to punch em out, drill a hole in the 12er to fish it out, ect. I have out of desperation been using Brass egale powerlets now even with the sticker I am not having any issue - The other ones that work well are the Copperheads (which are made by crossman go figure) RoBo __________________ When Lightning Strikes DAMAGE Is Done!

07-13-2007, 04:44 AM	#7 (permalink)
chplnstone bringing back the dead Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: pensacola, florida	ive had the problem, too especially with the pressure the fasst changers put on the peircer seal...if the seal is old, it gets squished around and wedges the 12 gram in...gets stuck between the sides of the neck and the seal holder...drill and pull, then check the seal

07-13-2007, 04:03 PM	#9 (permalink)
brandonc14 Active Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Vancouver, Canada	Thanks for the info guys, my last resort is to drill now...I'll get my dad to do it, no I'm not handicapped with tools, hes just better than me. Brandon

07-13-2007, 06:46 PM	#10 (permalink)
Raynman MCB Member Join Date: Apr 2006	I've found copperheads to be smaller as well.

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