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Old 08-23-2007, 03:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Pump help

i am interested in purchasing a pump. the guy that own the exotic sportz by me is trying to sell me a old razorback. does anyone know if this is a decent gun or have any pictures.

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Old 08-23-2007, 04:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It's a decent nelson clone. They are uni-body bore drop pumps with a 1" aluminum barrel; this means that they weigh a bit more then necessary but the barrel is well protected from dings/dents. The pump handle is also a bit larger around then others but not obscenely so (like the APEX). They are decent guns, better then a Trracer or Maverick but not as good as a Lapco. If the gun is less then $60 and in good condition then jump, around $70 is the most you should pay unless you really need or want another gun.
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Old 08-23-2007, 04:06 PM   #3 (permalink)
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the guy wants 100 or so with a hopper and a 9 oz with butt plate. should i do it?
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no, unless you shoot huge paint, and/or get it much cheaper.
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:15 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I'd have to agree unless it's in pristine and very collectable condition. You can easily pick up any one of the equivalent pumps for half that price.

Options are Trracer, Tagmaster, Hornet, SL68II and a few others that often go for under $50. I recently got a Trracer in excellent condition off Ebay for $30 after shipping charges. They don't always go QUITE that cheap but less than $50 is very typical.

EDIT- Actually in rethinking this if you can talk him into tossing in a new or near new 9oz bottle with the deal and provided it's in clean or almost like new condition that may not be that bad a deal. Hardly a give away price but fair.
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:18 PM   #6 (permalink)
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wut would you suggest as one of those types. because they all seem the same
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:23 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Would this be backbottle or bottomline setup?

If bottomline, jump. If backbottle, I'd have to think about it in your shoes. Bottomline with buttplate = consistent velocity and incredibly easy to aim.
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yea i am sorta aiming to a trracer with a 9 oz with a buttplate. would this be good?

i also like the tank coming out the back and not the bottom
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wut would you suggest as one of those types. because they all seem the same
Whatever comes up as the best deal considering price and condition. A Nelson is a Nelson is a Nelson, until you step into Phantom territory and beyond. The only major differences among the clones are slight differences in the valve/hammer setup (The Hammer has its powertube attached to the valve seat, while the Trracer's powertube is simply press-fitted into the hammer, which without proper oiling will lead to a very broken powertube in very short order) and how easy it is to find barrels.

I'm going to put it simply, you're going to have a hell of a time finding new barrels for old nelsons. That's why I like Trracers as J&J still makes Ceramics for them, which are incredibly quiet and accurate for a low price.

TLDR Version: Look for three things.

1) Price
2) Condition
3) Barrel thread type
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:40 PM   #10 (permalink)
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how well do the trracers shoot and are they air fed out the back?
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