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Old 11-10-2012, 01:21 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I am going to second the Compact Deluxe from Spyder. I got so many kills with it it was ridiculous. I loved taking out the 'pro' guys at my local field with it when they were shooting the latest great electro's on the block (mind you this around '02-'04). I had so much fun tricking mine out, put a Hybrid reg on it, threw a EFrame, custom milled the frame for roller ball detents, tournament lock on the back bolt/hammer, Empire barrel kit. Man, I need to dig out this spring and play more with it
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Old 11-10-2012, 07:37 AM   #32 (permalink)
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oh.. I'm a hair partial to the F1/F2 Illustrators. great bang for the buck. Ive always wanted an IDC blowback - just never gotten around to it.

And there is something amazingly satisfying about a VM... just sayin.
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Old 11-10-2012, 08:34 AM   #33 (permalink)
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ICD blowbacks are a lot of fun but my favorite's the Montneel Z-1. When mine worked it shot so damn smooth and consistently. Not to mention that for a liquid-run gun I got some pretty great efficiency.
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Old 11-10-2012, 11:36 AM   #34 (permalink)
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I have to put the Mega-Z up there.
Soo smooth. Comes apart whether you want it to or not! (Personal stupidity issue)
Probably enjoyed shooting this one more than my Angel.

Pro-Lite has to be up there for durability. Thing still works even after you dig it out of the ground and clean the mud out.

As for the 68-special, the unfortunate materials the feedneck was made out of... killed the design. But they make great parts guns for SMGs!
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Old 11-10-2012, 11:38 AM   #35 (permalink)
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F1 Illustrator hands down. I still run 2 of them to this day.

Second would be the Pro-Lite. I had a Mini-Lite years ago and should have never gotten rid of it
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Old 11-11-2012, 01:54 AM   #36 (permalink)
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PMI Black Maxx.

The low low price means that when you break it, you throw it in a gutter and go buy another.
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Old 11-11-2012, 02:28 AM   #37 (permalink)
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PMI Black Maxx.

The low low price means that when you break it, you throw it in a gutter and go buy another.

true although the end cap might be embedded in your forehead.
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Old 11-11-2012, 02:40 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Pro Carbine. From the days Tippmann made their stuff out of quality steel.

Also, in that line of thinking, the VM-68. Heavy is good. Heavy is reliable. If it doesn't work, you can always hit them with it.
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Old 11-11-2012, 04:07 AM   #39 (permalink)
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ParaOrdinance Mod 85.

Pneumatic Designs Storm.

Daystate Patriot.

PMI XTS Nemesis.

In order of desirability. I love the Nemesis, and have been looking for a cheap one for a while...
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Old 11-11-2012, 07:27 AM   #40 (permalink)
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There are so many different guns listed now, I suspect "best" might be subjective.

I'm obviously going to say MegaZ because I'm an irritating fanboy. But its honestly the peak of blowback technology, and mechanical guns in general.

It is the lightest, fastest, and most effecienct. Both the barrel and breech can be stripped in under a second. This was critical because I played tournaments and needed a gun that always worked perfectly, and could clean a chop in seconds.

Unlike other good mech guns (ie mags,cockers), it never needs adjustment, tuning, tinkering, etc. It has shot 270fps since the day I bought it. I've never even adjusted the FPS, or changed any seals in almost 20 years!

And related to that, I've never had to "upgrade" parts just to play with it. Same bolt, same barrel, same everything. Back then, it was literally the only high-end gun you could buy and use "out of the box" without anything else to buy except a hopper.

No other gun had all those qualities, and that era seems the peak for blowbacks. After that, they started getting a bad image because of all the cheap blowbacks starting to flood the market. Ie Spyders, Stingrays, etc. Plus... then you had electros which further made the idea of a "high end mech blowback" a lost market.

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