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ironnerd88 11-09-2012 09:05 AM

Best Blowback ever?
 
Since I felt light lighting the fuse... What do you'se guys think is the best blowback paintball gun ever?

My vote: ICD 'Cats (I've used Tippmanns, Spyders (and clones), Mokal Mirage, PMI-III/VM-68, even an F-"something" Illustrator and prefer the ICD's)

Runner up: Brass Eagle Stingray - ONLY because it is fun to tinker with...

Greenmtnphantom 11-09-2012 09:14 AM

Top 3

Montneel Z
ICD Cats
Illustrators

In that order.

Myrkul 11-09-2012 09:42 AM

ICD cat's hands down. Soooo nice.

HP_Lovecraft 11-09-2012 01:32 PM

The big problem I've always had with the ICD guns is no easy way to clean out a jam. The guns need to be depressurized to get the bolt out.

I hate to say it but the lack of a "field stripping" ability keeps it from being "best ever". I was never impressed with the "adjustable recock" either. I always had the impression that it was making up for a flaw in the valve system.

Plus... it had issue with liquid. I liked that they made it to "work with siphons", and even recommended them in the winter. But you had to retune the gun. Just adding a siphon tank, and the gun would likely double-tap, busting a ball in the breech (see above). Likewise, switching from "liquid mode" back to gas, and you were likely to shoot-down, also busting a ball.

For certain it was well machined, and well made. Especially the early Puma guns. The Thundercats seemed a bit cheaper. But they were very expensive and not as suited for tournament play. Seemed to have no market for them. (ie high-end, rec-gun?)

Granted... I'm completely biased. Just giving my 2 cents

idkfa 11-09-2012 01:34 PM

Montneel.

Mine was a great shooter, it was just at the end of a 15 year career and the sear was shot.

nofxkid2005 11-09-2012 01:38 PM

I'm gonna throw out a modern marker, the Kaos-D. Fantastic shooters

Myrkul 11-09-2012 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HP_Lovecraft (Post 2529371)
The big problem I've always had with the ICD guns is no easy way to clean out a jam. The guns need to be depressurized to get the bolt out.

I hate to say it but the lack of a "field stripping" ability keeps it from being "best ever". I was never impressed with the "adjustable recock" either. I always had the impression that it was making up for a flaw in the valve system.

Plus... it had issue with liquid. I liked that they made it to "work with siphons", and even recommended them in the winter. But you had to retune the gun. Just adding a siphon tank, and the gun would likely double-tap, busting a ball in the breech (see above). Likewise, switching from "liquid mode" back to gas, and you were likely to shoot-down, also busting a ball.

For certain it was well machined, and well made. Especially the early Puma guns. The Thundercats seemed a bit cheaper. But they were very expensive and not as suited for tournament play. Seemed to have no market for them. (ie high-end, rec-gun?)

Granted... I'm completely biased. Just giving my 2 cents

Your no feild strip point is very true, but the gun's positive attributes more then make up for it. I've found the valve tuning to be flawless, I've been able to tune my cat to only recock if there was a paintball in the breach, it seldom misfeeds, it's far smoother then any other blow back I've shot, and it's valve system also makes it crazy consistant. If tuned correctly efficency is incredible too.

Just out of cursioty, what gun do you feel is the best blow back?

Millar156 11-09-2012 02:11 PM

Love ICD Cats! One of my favorite all time platforms blowback or otherwise.

Tippmann's and Spyders are what they are.
PMI-3/VM-68 was my first gun. Heavy, unbalanced, and completely satisfying to shoot all the same.
The Mirage just never did anything for me. Decent gun but not great.
F-blahblahblah Illustrators are nice, fixed one up for my brother for his first gun.
Having never owned a "Z" I can't comment on them. I may just have to correct that.

maggot 11-09-2012 02:15 PM

Spyder SE

ApoC_101 11-09-2012 02:21 PM

I've heard lots of good bout the Kaos STBBs, also, no votes for the AM Sentinels? Apparently they were outstanding.


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