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Old 11-28-2012, 10:43 AM   #1 (permalink)
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threaded detent question

i got in debate with someone on another forum about wether or not a mag was threaded for angel detents. which it is but he says that they body will take cocker threaded detents.

so is there a difference in cocker and angel detents and is it significant?

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Old 11-28-2012, 10:52 AM   #2 (permalink)
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mag uses wire detents in the twist lock barrel.

ule bodies use cocker detents i think.

judging from this review page, i'd say they are the same as angels Custom Products Angel/Autococker Detent | Paintball Review | pbreview.com
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Old 11-28-2012, 11:08 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Ule bodies are Angel threaded. but I have put cocker detents on them in a pinch, it all depends on the manufacture. because most body's only carry 2 or 3 runs of threads the difference between Angel(metric threads)and Cocker(standard threads) doesnt always matter. Go Angel if you can they fit better

Its the same with Bushmasters, they are cocker threaded but some aftermarket impulse detents will work.
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ya i knew they were angel threaded but he insisted on telling me that he put a cocker detent in it but i didnt know they were that close in size. i have owned alot of mags and had yet to hear about the cocker detent thing
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Sorry to dig up an old thread but to clarify, a cocker delrin ball style detent like the cp ones or even the stock ones that use a metal spring loaded ball, are the same thread as angel ball detents? So a pre 2005 angel detent would work in an autococker and vice versa or no?
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Sorry to dig up an old thread but to clarify, a cocker delrin ball style detent like the cp ones or even the stock ones that use a metal spring loaded ball, are the same thread as angel ball detents? So a pre 2005 angel detent would work in an autococker and vice versa or no?
They are somewhat close, angle being .393" X 25.4 TPI and cocker being .375" X 24 tpi. A cocker detent would probably thread into an angel threaded port, but likely not the other way around. neither would fit correctly.

It would be a grand way to bugger up the threading in your body.
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I'm sorry for posting them in metric values, but that gave me as a machinist from the metric world a better view on sizing... Angel threads are M10x1.0, what we would call metric fine thread. Usually outter threads are a wee bit smaller, so the actual diameter would be around 9,8-9,9mm.

When calculating the cocker threads, it came to 3/8-24 so in metric sizing this would turn out to be 9,525mm diameter (theoretical) and a pitch of 1.058. Even for such a short threading, this should not fit in my opinion. If it does, well the threaded hole could be a bit oversized, but the diameter difference between these threads is too big. Pitch difference will result in jamming after 2 turns. If you apply force it will definatly fit, but like Dukie said, it's a grand way to mess things up.
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