Mags and co2

ogti9g9 · 12-30-2012, 12:10 PM

Alright, just bought a mag and all I have is co2, i do have an hoa tank but its empty, when I bought the marker they aired it up with co2 and hpa and it worked with both, so is it ok to air it up with co2 once for a little?

Z3R0 · 12-30-2012, 12:26 PM

If it has a Classic valve then it's perfectly fine - just don't let liquid CO2 get into the valve. If it's an RT valve then you should just keep to HPA.

ogti9g9 · 12-30-2012, 12:32 PM

Ok, it's a classic, thanks!

maggot · 12-30-2012, 12:37 PM

I run all of my classics on co2, it's fine. Things that help are expansion chambers and an angled ASA

oldschool45 · 12-30-2012, 12:52 PM

Ok how do the run with a 3.5oz run VSC style? Or should I retro fit a few of my tanks for anti-siphon tubes?

dukie · 12-30-2012, 12:54 PM

a vertical 3.5 will work just fine. It will tend to freeze up rather easily if you rapid fire.

oldschool45 · 12-30-2012, 02:26 PM

Rapid fire shouldn't be a problem. I'm going to put a fake pump on it with a stick feed and mock it up to look like my other Phantom

Jaan · 12-30-2012, 02:38 PM

I use a 4oz tank vertical on my MiniMag...however, keep in mind, Automags are gas hogs. You just don't get that many shots. You'll get roughly half what you would get on an actual Phantom.

For years I ran my first Automag on CO2, with a bottom line, anti-syphon tube, and vertical expansion chamber. It ran fine, I could even play in the winter if I don't shoot that fast.

If you really want to get old school, you can just coil up a hose like so (mine btw)...

toymachine · 12-30-2012, 03:56 PM

My old minimag actually hated co2. it had a tendency to draw liquid co2 into the valve, even without shooting remotely fast (even without shooting). a/s setup stopped this from being such a problem, but I would still like to see if adding a stab as well would really make it shine.

any words regarding adding stab (and other co2 friendly regs?) to mags run off co2? particularly a/s co2 as specified

thx

JKR · 12-30-2012, 04:10 PM

I mostly run my Classic valved Automags with HPA these days but I still have one setup to use CO2. I have an anti-siphon tank matched to the 'gun and then use an expansion chamber in combination with that with good results. Things get a little iffy in colder temps (50 deg and lower) but above that CO2 will work OK. HPA is the better choice if it is possible.

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ogti9g9 Evil Omen Techmaster Join Date: Nov 2010	Mags and co2 Alright, just bought a mag and all I have is co2, i do have an hoa tank but its empty, when I bought the marker they aired it up with co2 and hpa and it worked with both, so is it ok to air it up with co2 once for a little? __________________ I Fix Evil Omen's For Free. There ain't nothing a couple of Stuka's can't fix. Last edited by ogti9g9; 12-30-2012 at 12:22 PM.

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ogti9g9 Evil Omen Techmaster Join Date: Nov 2010	Ok, it's a classic, thanks! __________________ I Fix Evil Omen's For Free. There ain't nothing a couple of Stuka's can't fix.

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maggot I like Guns and Cigars. Join Date: Jul 2008	I run all of my classics on co2, it's fine. Things that help are expansion chambers and an angled ASA __________________ Otter Customs Paintball - Spyder, Cocker, and more How to Guides, Diagrams, and Manuals StraightUpCigars.com My Feedback

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dukie more gooder Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Kitchener, Ontario	a vertical 3.5 will work just fine. It will tend to freeze up rather easily if you rapid fire. __________________ The 6Th Run DSG Sales Thread DRV's in stock DSP frames in stock My Feedback The NEW DSP - Check it out!

12-30-2012, 02:38 PM	#8 (permalink)
Jaan XYZZY Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: People's Republic of Massachusetts	I use a 4oz tank vertical on my MiniMag...however, keep in mind, Automags are gas hogs. You just don't get that many shots. You'll get roughly half what you would get on an actual Phantom. For years I ran my first Automag on CO2, with a bottom line, anti-syphon tube, and vertical expansion chamber. It ran fine, I could even play in the winter if I don't shoot that fast. If you really want to get old school, you can just coil up a hose like so (mine btw)... __________________ If your glasses fog up and you want to make your own mask fans, here's how; V-Force Mask Fans JT fans with speed control "My happiness doesn't depend on anything. My heart is always happy. I do have anger issues though."

12-30-2012, 12:52 PM	#5 (permalink)
oldschool45 Rec Poster Join Date: Aug 2012	Ok how do the run with a 3.5oz run VSC style? Or should I retro fit a few of my tanks for anti-siphon tubes?

12-30-2012, 02:26 PM	#7 (permalink)
oldschool45 Rec Poster Join Date: Aug 2012	Rapid fire shouldn't be a problem. I'm going to put a fake pump on it with a stick feed and mock it up to look like my other Phantom

12-30-2012, 04:10 PM	#10 (permalink)
JKR AKA: Wraith Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: WV	I mostly run my Classic valved Automags with HPA these days but I still have one setup to use CO2. I have an anti-siphon tank matched to the 'gun and then use an expansion chamber in combination with that with good results. Things get a little iffy in colder temps (50 deg and lower) but above that CO2 will work OK. HPA is the better choice if it is possible. __________________ Proud Member of THE URBAN GUARD "A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both." -- Dwight D. Eisenhower "Associate with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation; for it is better to be alone than in bad company." -- George Washington Feedback

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