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Old 01-24-2013, 07:32 PM   #21 (permalink)
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That is highly dependent on the tank. My ninja 13/3k for example does need to be hydro'd as it falls outside the exemption guidelines.
Please explain, I was under the assumption that both Ninja and Gorilla 13/3000s had unlimited hydro.
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:19 PM   #22 (permalink)
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my ninja's got a bunch of dates on it too, and im under the impression for whatever reason it does need to be hydroed (13/3k). Love to know why too, I know a lot of times the 13/3 are exempt.
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:50 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Aluminum tanks, empty (I am referring specifically to the 48/3000 here) weighs in more than a 68/4500 tank. But once you add in air (Yes, it does have a weight), the 68/4500 slightly edges out the 48/3000 tank, while giving you twice as many shots. The only good thing about an aluminum tank (Taking 13/ and 22/3000 tanks) comes from the lifespan of the tank. Aluminum will sell for around $50, CF for around $150. Add in two hydro's over the 15 years, at $20 a pop, you have a total of $90 for the Aluminum, and $190 for the CF. Let's say that you are still playing after 15 years, so with the Aluminum, you get it hydoed again, for $20. If you have a CF, you throw it away, and pop off another $150 for a new CF tank. You have paid over three times as much for CF as you did for Aluminum. That is, in opinion, the only good thing about an Aluminum tank.

Now, 13/ and 22/3000 tanks fall under the 2x2 rule. Meaning two feet or less in length, and two inches or less in diameter. Technically, a 13 and 22 tank are just over two inches in diameter. Something like 2.1 inches at most.
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Old 01-25-2013, 01:07 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I believe Rob at Ninja stated it's because they're slightly larger than 2.0", I can't find the post though to see if there were any other reasons. This also applies to a bunch of the newer 9oz, 3.5oz and 4oz co2 tanks as they have a larger than 2" diameter. Mine also clearly states on it "5 year hydro".


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I believe Rob at Ninja stated it's because they're slightly larger than 2.0", I can't find the post though to see if there were any other reasons. This also applies to a bunch of the newer 9oz, 3.5oz and 4oz co2 tanks as they have a larger than 2" diameter. Mine also clearly states on it "5 year hydro".


American Hydrotest -Paintball Tank Testing. "Greater than 2 inches in diameter must be tested every 5 years."
I have a ninja tank that is smaller then 2inches in diamter its actually 1 7/8's. Deffinatly not two. Mines rebranded from Rap4 buts its deff a ninja tank. I contacted them because when I read the date on the tank it "expired" in 3 months after I got it. I was told by Omar(pretty sure, if not him another rap4 rep) that the 13in tanks they sell NEVER NEED TO BE HYDROED.
so the date on my tank is 08/2007 and ive filled it every month since I got it and its still go put air in it. I plan to use it all season too. The tank itself is wrapped in camo tape atm as I kept chipping the paint on the tank anyways. You cant even see the numbers on it anymore :-p.

anyways. Id go with whatever tank fits you best. I prefer 13's as the other aluminum tanks seem to get too wide at the butt of the tank and dont feel right with a pump IMO.
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My 13/3k is made by Catalina Cylinders, but specifically has the 'Impact Division' marking stamped into it, so it falls under:

DOT-3AL Cylinders "2 by 2 rule" (Catalina Cylinders Cliff Impact Division only)

Requalification not required per the note under table 1 in 49CFR part 180.205. The note reads, "Any cylinder not exceeding two (2) inches in outside diameter and less than two (2) feet in length is exempt from volumetric expansion testing."

From my readings, very few of our 13 or 22 ci tanks have this exemption.
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Slightly off topic but can anyone tell me if my Pure Energy 13/3K tank is exempt from hydro? The bottle tells me it needs to be retested in 2015 but as I am reading this I'm thinking that is pure BS. I don't have my cloth measuring tape handy otherwise I would measure myself.
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If it specifically says that it needs to be retested, it does.
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Sent the guys at ninja an email, I will edit this post when I hear back.
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