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Old 02-10-2013, 09:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Axe + Allstar woes

Last weekend I played with my Empire Axe LE PDD and bought a half case of yellow Allstar at the field. It was amazingly accurate and I had ZERO problems of any kind. Today I played at a different field that is not FPO, so I bought a case of orange Allstar from another store to bring.

The first half of my hopper for the first game was yellow leftovers on bottom, orange on top. As soon as the first orange ball loaded I got nothing but breaks. I squeegeed, changed Freak inserts and barrel tips between games, but couldn't make it thru 3 rounds without a break. All breaks were in the barrel....none broke in the chamber of the gun.

So.....my question is: did I just get a bad batch (with the orange) or is there something with my gun I should tend to? Someone at the field suggested a Tbolt, but I don't know if its worth the upgrade or if I should just avoid that paint.

Any help is appreciated. I've recently returned to the game and the tech is way diff than my younger days but as far as I know my gun should be capable of shooting tournament grade paint right?
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Old 02-10-2013, 09:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'd venture to say it's probably the paint and not the marker. Paint could have been stored improperly/ old/bad batch etc., etc..

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Old 02-10-2013, 09:56 PM   #3 (permalink)
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it was certainly delicate paint.....I dropped a few balls in my dining room while loading pods last nite and anything that rolled off the table onto the tile broke instantly.
It just sucked because the first 4-5 games of the day I was struggling through breaks, and then when I decided to buy some different paint all that was left was Hotbox so I got no breaks but my accuracy disappeared entirely.
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I will second bad paint. It happens. I have a marker that had never broken a ball. 1 batch of bad paint, record gone. Didn't matter what marker I used that day, two guys with 3 tourney guns each left that day for the same problems. Don't worry about the axe, no gun can solve a bad batch.
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Old 02-10-2013, 10:21 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Good to hear......I'll probably avoid Allstar the next few times I play anyways. I didn't even realize it was "tournament" paint, it was just the "mid-grade" offering at the field I played at the 1st time I bought it.

Oh well, I just had to adapt my playing style today to getting within the range of Hotbox so I moved aggressively and still got a ton of people out!
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What loader were you using?
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Old 02-10-2013, 11:28 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Virtue Spire. I've had zero problems with it, and it's def feeding fast enough.
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Old 02-10-2013, 11:30 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Orange allstars suck..I had the same problems ,same paint, worse than junk paint...
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I would have to say paint as well, but there is a plus. Pick-up a Boss Infamous/XSV bolt, it has a softer sprng in it that lets you shoot fragile paint with less breaks. Includes a spring kit as well.

AXE PARTS - scroll down a couple of items, you'll see them.
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I would have to say paint as well, but there is a plus. Pick-up a Boss Infamous/XSV bolt, it has a softer sprng in it that lets you shoot fragile paint with less breaks. Includes a spring kit as well.

AXE PARTS - scroll down a couple of items, you'll see them.
Ah, but wont work with Orange Allstars..I used to love Allstars and the last 4 times ive bought them over the last year and a half it was just like flushing 50.00 down the toilet...Even with a Boss bolt.. I ended up switching to a Lurker bolt with better results on other paint..
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