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Old 03-04-2013, 09:11 PM   #11 (permalink)
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So... it really comes down to whichever you think looks/feels better? I am leaning Z2 because I don't need a huge amount of paint and it looks to be the smallest.
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:20 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Have you thought about the spire? I have a rotor and love it and I'm not throwing paint like crazy, so jamming isn't an issue for me. If you want the durability of the rotor and the weight of the Z2, go with the spire. It also has a higher ball capacity.
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Old 03-05-2013, 12:49 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I vote Z2, but I hate DYE and everything related.
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Old 03-05-2013, 01:52 AM   #14 (permalink)
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or save yourself some money and pick up a cheaper Halo Too or any of the other variants.
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Old 03-05-2013, 03:16 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I have jammed my rotor twice over the years, both times it was sub .670 paint.
YouŽll only get in trouble If you shoot reballs, or ridiculously small paint.

HavenŽt tried z2 or spire cause, well IŽve never had any problems.
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Old 03-06-2013, 09:16 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I would go with the Z2 just because of Kees warranty. If your Rotor breaks a year from now do you think Dye will fix it for free? No. They might not even keep parts around to fix them after the Roter V2 or whatever's next comes out. Kee would fix a year-old anything for free in my experience.
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Old 03-06-2013, 09:24 PM   #17 (permalink)
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what about the older Prophesy not the Z2? I am looking for a new (used) loader as well and it's prices are starting to come closer to my range. The halos are ok but I have 3 in need of new shells and well.....
Besides, I would like something of Simon's
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Old 03-06-2013, 11:32 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I can't speak for the z2 or spire but I really like the rotor. I used to be a halo guy but replacing the batteries every other week was a pain and expensive at 6 AA each time. with my rotors (yes plural I have 4) I change the batteries twice a year at 3 AAA each. I know it will be a while till i recoup the cost in battery savings but not having to worry about did I change the batteries last week or is it going to go dead in the middle of the next game really makes life that much better and that was worth the cost to me.
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Old 03-06-2013, 11:40 PM   #19 (permalink)
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you want cheap and consistant? It doesnt get more consistant than this lol. Skip to 2:17.

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all jokes aside, it is consistant "from start to finish" just like nate says...
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Any good force feed should be consistent for you.

Prophecy around 60-70 bucks is awesome. Shells are good but not super tough. Awesome capacity. 2nd lightest
Rotor around 100 bucks is great. Shells are super tough, will jam when balls get mooshy. Too small without extended top for me. heaviest
Z2 around 100 bucks. Shells are much tougher than prophecy original. Decent capacity, though I wish they did a better job designing the shells (more bulge in front) mine will sometimes wedge 2-4 paintballs in the front, which is just dumb.

Rotor UI is the best. It has an On button that is very positive. If you don't use speed feeds, the rotor lid is worse than a VL200 or virtually any other hopper lid. If you use a speed feed it doesn't matter. The prophecy and Z2 lid are amazing. Most people can fit their hand completely inside the loader it is so huge.

Those are really the best choices. Rotors are easier to take apart. Prophecies are harder. Z2 is as easy. All are easy compared to pain in the butt loaders like old Halos. All are 10x more durable than old halos too.

Biggest thing for me is that I have had jams with my rotors and not with my prophecies and Z2's. Jams that won't auto unjam I mean, or be easily unjammed without disassembling hopper. The little fin on the bottom of a rotor is good for nothing in my experience.

Rotors are probably the most popular because of their durability compared to prophecies, and their nice user interface. People love them.

Try them all if you can.

Personally I'd use a VL200 over a Halo.

When buying a prophecy, make sure the locking tabs and feedneck areas don't have cracks. That is the most important thing. All the prices I mentioned are for used loaders. Z2's are probably the priciest of the three but not by much, rotors have great resale value.
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