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Old 03-08-2013, 03:32 AM   #1 (permalink)
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How do you remove this bolt?

Hi everyone

I just pick up this KP3




But I can't seem to remove this bolt out to clean it up



Twisting it the other way doesn't seem to work, and I can't pull out the rod. It seem as if the rod is threaded and screw into the bolt.

I can't remove that little piece that is on the bolt in the picture either (broke a hex key trying to turn the screw).

What else should I do to get it out?

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Old 03-08-2013, 03:48 AM   #2 (permalink)
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For the pump rod, there should be a setscrew on the underside of the bolt, just below where the pump rod goes in. Back that off a bit and the rod should come out.

As for the cocking lug, if I recall correctly, it's spring loaded. Turn the bolt so the cocking lug is up in the notch as you have it in the photo, and just push the lug in with something pointy, then pull the bolt straight out.

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Old 03-08-2013, 09:43 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Nope this one isn't spring loaded.

Honestly.....it's gonna be hard. I have a set of stainless allens. I put that size in and then use my needle nose vise grips on it and work it and work it and work it. Sometimes some liquid wrench if I'm desperate.

You can't get the bolt out without getting that hex out.

As Doc says there should be a small allen on the other side of the bolt that'll let you take that out.....I do recall having a threaded arm though once....so it's possible that it's tapped into there. If you can get your cocking lug out you can get the bolt out and then unscrew it.
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Nope this one isn't spring loaded.

Honestly.....it's gonna be hard. I have a set of stainless allens. I put that size in and then use my needle nose vise grips on it and work it and work it and work it. Sometimes some liquid wrench if I'm desperate.

You can't get the bolt out without getting that hex out.

As Doc says there should be a small allen on the other side of the bolt that'll let you take that out.....I do recall having a threaded arm though once....so it's possible that it's tapped into there. If you can get your cocking lug out you can get the bolt out and then unscrew it.
So that allen in the side of the bolt holds the cocking lug?
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If you can't remove the cocking lug, you can cut a field strip notch, carefully. You'll more than likely need a new bolt after that though. Like what the others said, there's a set screw for the rod. Ohh and hit em with a torch to loosen them up.
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Thanks everyone I will try that later today. I know it have the mc Murray knob, but is there any other way to identify a mc Murray gun?
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It's been a while, but I seem to recall some Sheridan bolts, especially early ones, had a cocking lug that threaded in from the top. If that's the case, you need to turn the bolt 'til you can see the top of the lug through... I guess the feed port?

Though I'm not sure if those lugs were factory or one of the aftermarket mods (MacMurray, Palmer's etc.) Something else to try, anyway.

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That is a Mcmurry gun, the sight rail is right the long feed neck is right, is there a quick strip slot on the passenger side of the barrel?
Because of the short lower tube it may have been built off of a pellet gun.
Looks like it has a Old KP2 bolt, where the pump rod screws into the bolt instead of having a locking screw. Have to get the cocking lug out first if there is no quick strip slot. The bolt has to come all the way out the back to unscrew from the pump rod.
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So that allen in the side of the bolt holds the cocking lug?
No....I'm pretty positive that allen is the cocking lug. Some of the cocking lugs are sprung loaded, some are allen screws that are ground down so you don't have the threads hitting the hammer.
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So my only other option if I can't get the cocking lug out is to cut the rod. Then get a new rod?

Or should I grind the lug, drill it out, and replace it?


I don't see any set screw on the bolt.
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