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Old 08-07-2013, 12:21 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 08-07-2013, 01:04 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I see "pump cocker" as being the term used by people who aren't aware that the autococker started out as a pump, QUOTE]

If anything, the term should be "cocker pump".

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Old 08-07-2013, 01:26 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Don't have a lot of time, so I'll try to explaing myself fully later.

It would be my belief that any WGP body used to make a pump, that was previously an Autococker, would be a pump Cocker. As the name implies the copywrited description from the manufacturer, not a specific type of gun; as it would be with a spool valve, popit, etc. this would be supported well by other manufacturers not being able to use the name Autococker.

To call a converted autococker a sniper would be liken to taking a run of the mill 60's Camaro, adding all the Z28 bits, and trying to sell it as a Z28. That doesn't fly, as it will always be a clone, factory correct parts or not.
Hell, in most cases here, the most popular pump kits used (CCM) aren't even made by WGP. So now were talking about taking a Volkswagon Bug, throwing a Porsche body on it, and passing it off as a Porsche.

I believe calling a pumped WGP a pump cocker is accurate. As it describes an Autococker that is converted to a pump; not a factory pump.
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Old 08-07-2013, 02:09 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Not to split hairs or anything, but I beleive you need to preface the term "pump" or "autococker" with the model. Maybe even to go far enough to use make and model when stepping outside the WGP relm. WGP is unique in they owned the terms "autococker" and "sniper" and call their markers what ever they want.

This is how I refer to the 3 WGP's I own
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Old 08-07-2013, 03:11 PM   #15 (permalink)
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This thread can go on and on about it. I've done my research through countless threads on all the forums and my findings were as I stated earlier. Any autococker turned pump is a sniper and the slab bodied wgp pumps were either sniper II or III. I've also been a wgp fan for over 10 years and they are all I own. This should be the end of the thread. In the end, People are gonna call it what they want.
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Old 08-07-2013, 03:25 PM   #16 (permalink)
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In my opinion I do believe that all pumped cockers are "snipers".

The reason I personally say pumped cocker or converted autococker ( along those lines) is due to the fact that people looking for "snipers" and "sniper parts" search for "autocockers" and "autococker parts"...

In conclusion, although they are "snipers" , most people see / perceive them and their associated parts as something that belongs to the "autococker" family .
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Old 08-07-2013, 04:06 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I was under the impression that a "Sniper" came straight from the factory as a pump and has never had Pneumatics on it.

Pump Cocker in my mind tells me "Hey this was a semi-auto when it was made in the factory but now it's a pump"

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Old 08-07-2013, 05:38 PM   #18 (permalink)
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hmm.. Sniper = WGP first pump.
Sniper II = WGP second pump. thus turning Snipers into Sniper 1's.
Sniper III = minieds body Sniper II.
MCB coined the sniper 1.5 = Sniper II shipped with old Sniper I parts.
All are aluminum Sheridan designs.

Any pumped Autococker = sniper.
pump cocker = kind of stupid.
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Old 08-07-2013, 05:48 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Even more specific terminology question!

If we're going to call pump-converted autocockers Sniper 2s, should be call mini-length pump-converted minicockers Sniper 3s?
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Old 08-07-2013, 05:49 PM   #20 (permalink)
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So any pumped non-WGP is a Fiper?
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