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Old 10-13-2007, 12:40 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Mag frames on a cocker?

If I'm not mistaken, back in the day mags and cockers shared frame. Do the frames still line up? If so, how difficult would it be to mod a Y frame onto a 'cocker? Just out of curiosity...
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Oh god... I had to bring up Z-frames and get you started on Y frames didn't I!
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Old 10-13-2007, 12:53 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Well, I just started thinking, and you know it would be cool...

So, uh, could I make it work? :P
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If I'm not mistaken, back in the day mags and cockers shared frame. Do the frames still line up? If so, how difficult would it be to mod a Y frame onto a 'cocker? Just out of curiosity...
Well, if by "shared frames" you meant that you could take the internals out of a cocker frame and file it for use on an automag, yes. The "holes" line up, and older mag frames have space for the spring needed for a cocker sear.

The y-frame is basically an intelliframe, and it'd take a whole mess of work to get it on a cocker.
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Old 10-13-2007, 12:36 PM   #5 (permalink)
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i'd love having a z grip on a cocker! but it's a question that's been asked before. it would take a lot to mod it. but...

when you're done, i want pics!
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Old 10-13-2007, 01:12 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Hey, I've seen Matrix UL frames on 'Cockers and Ego frames on Automags-I don't see why you couldn't do it.
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When they run those Matrix frames they are running them as E frames with the MQ valve, all the frame needs to do is activate a switch. It is incredibly easy to do that.

To convert a Y frame or Z frame to actually activate a 4 way valve is very difficult. You need to relocated the pivot point and either make your own trigger or use a trigger designed for a different autococker hinge. There may not even be enough meat on the frame in the right places to allow decent geometry at all.

You could make one work for a pump very easily though.
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He's currently using a Race'd Freeflow if I remember correctly Cunha, so the 4-way activation shouldn't be much of an issue, just tripping the sear.
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Old 10-13-2007, 03:48 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Well, just weighing my options. Actually, I was thinking electro or pump (not that I don't like mech, but I do have an understanding of how difficult that would be), so another question is how do the mag sears line up on cocker bodies (for pump)? I will say this now: I don't have much experience with mags.
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You need to drill a sear hole. Mag sears are totally different.

I have an earlier sniper 2 frame which is a mag frame essentially. Has the pivot trigger and would be a good thing to base your measurements off of. I guess any pivot sniper frame would be.
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