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Old 12-31-2013, 05:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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hammer 7 vs kaos pump

im torn i want a cheap back up for my phantom to use in bad weather i like how the kaos pumps but like that hammer can use first strikes. any thoughts on the subject?
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Old 12-31-2013, 05:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Are you ever going to use first strikes?

"Back up to a phantom" in my mind means no.
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Hammer is just more versatile

can be used in mag fed only games and can use FS rounds. well built and light. easy to mod..

go with the hammer. its the best marker i have ever seen in its price range.
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Go to your local proshop and try both of them out.
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im torn i want a cheap back up for my phantom to use in bad weather i like how the kaos pumps but like that hammer can use first strikes. any thoughts on the subject?
Loaner yes but Phantom's very, very, very, very rarely go down and they love bad weather. Scrounge up an old cocker and throw a pump kit on it. Otherwise go Hammer go its still a nelson valve train.
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Yeah I don't know if you need a backup for a phantom... Mine has yet to have an issue in almost 9 years of use, which is still new compared to many. But I have used the "backup" reason for almost every gun I own lol. You can always have more.

I really like my hammer7 though. Pretty decent deal for 120 bucks. It has its quirks but for a gun that you won't be using as a primary, it would make a nice change. And magfed play is a blast.

As far as KPs... Not really a big fan. The stock regs are not great, they fart which is annoying and charming at the same time (I would assume that can be sprung out of them?). They do shoot though just like any other gun.

Is your phantom open class or stock class?
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mine is open class just dont like using it when it is raining want something cheap but good i wont care if gets beat up and wet. also mine i bought used a year ago and only thing that i replaced was the bolt because thread was screwed up.
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The real value of a Hammer 7 is in the magazine and FSR capability. If you don't want those, you might be better off with a beater phantom. I don't think a KP would be any better in the rain, but it may be entertaining as an undercocking stacked tube marker.
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