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Old 08-20-2006, 04:40 AM   #11 (permalink)
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bare vm, so its all internals, feed neck, trigger components and guard and no barrel......then add a barrel, air and then hopper........my sfl cocker spoils me, i dont think it weighs any where near 5lb with every thing untill i add the tank. if things go well for me ill be getting some vm bodies and the parts to fix 2 of them very soon. after handling one this summer i just had to have one(or more..)

im a big dude i think i can handle it.

and for reloading it i have an option. i use to have a hook on my belt for my cocker to attach to so i could have both hands free, the same type system could be used on both sides so my hands could be freed to reload. ill need a pretty hefty pair of suspenders to compliment my belt though. although i doubt ill go through enough ammo to require a reload its always good to be prepaired.
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Old 08-20-2006, 07:34 AM   #12 (permalink)
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So I'm looking at roughly 10 pounds with all the goodies, darn, I need a scale, anyone have one they want to sell me?
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Old 08-20-2006, 12:29 PM   #13 (permalink)
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and yes, arm exercises are advised
Vm's Are the arm exercise. And my VM's are lighter then my Sniper1 with it's 10 oz tank w/Thermo valve. You really feel it by the end of the day Oi.


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Old 08-20-2006, 12:36 PM   #14 (permalink)
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VMs are tanks, period, thy double as entrenching tools, hammers, ect. By far one of the best guns built in terms of reliability. They are over built in almost every way. They are slow, heavy, gas hogs that having been said. Also one of the few guns with a tuanble valve IIRC. Best thing is to buy one and see If you like it or not. They are also bigger than they appear in pictures.
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So I'm looking at roughly 10 pounds with all the goodies, darn, I need a scale, anyone have one they want to sell me?
I don't think it'll be that heavy. Mine is 7 pounds with a 10 and 20 ounce tanks and a rico apache on it.
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Old 08-21-2006, 11:25 AM   #16 (permalink)
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One of these days, I'm going to have to get a VM and see how much weight I can shave off on the mill. Anybody know if that's ever been done? I'm curious as to how far you can skeletonize it.


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Old 08-21-2006, 11:31 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I remember actually creating a harnass to hold mine.
Basically, I took an old "concealed carry" harnass, and removed the holster. Then I attached a "sling mount" to the harnass.
Then, on the back of the VM, I drilled and mounted the base of the sling swivel mount.
So, it was hooked to me while playing, and meant that I didn't need to support the weigh with my arms.

I liked it so much, I added swivel mounts to most of my guns. Not to hold while playing, but great for those LONG scenerio games where you gun sick of lugging that gun everywhere.

NOTE: The threads on swivel-mounts are 10/32. Same as the threads on bottomlines. Handy.

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Old 08-21-2006, 11:36 AM   #18 (permalink)
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One of these days, I'm going to have to get a VM and see how much weight I can shave off on the mill. Anybody know if that's ever been done? I'm curious as to how far you can skeletonize it.
It's been done several times back in the day. Like so:

http://www.vm68.com/vm68/customvms/pu5.jpg

The thing about doing that to a VM to make it lighter ... is why not just buy another gun? A Spyder is pretty much a lightened VM anyways. What makes a VM so charming is that you can chop down small trees with it.
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What makes a VM so charming is that you can chop down small trees with it.
Wow that slays me...
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Wow that slays me...
lol its quite possibly one of the most fun guns ever for getting looks out on the field from all the younger kids. and it sounds like a cannon. *click-CHINK!* *click-CHINK!* Thats when heads start turning as they try and figure out what is so loud and flinging paint with a ridiculous amount of accuracy

Edit: and i just weighed my VM-68 magnum with a 72-3000 Steel HPA tank and it came in at about 8lbs. but you need a tank that big to feed this beast. Id recommend a remote line lol.
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