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Old 10-04-2017, 04:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Freak XL/Longer Control Bores vs Standard Freak: Is There a Difference?

When we think "longer control bore", we are to assume this will achieve better accuracy, efficiency, FPS. But does it? Has anyone really noticed much of an improvement with the Freak XL, or any longer-control-bore barrels?
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Old 10-04-2017, 05:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I have one, I haven't done any real scientific testing on it but I haven't noticed a difference other than they look cooler. if you already have a freak I wouldn't bother replacing it with an XL.
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Ultimately I don't think it has much effect on accuracy, efficiency maybe since you're taking greater advantage of the gas expansion. I would tend to believe that depending on valve type, dwell, pressure, etc that the optimum control bore length would vary from gun to gun, meaning that longer is not always better. In the case of the XL, I believe there was a net gain of 5-10 fps by switching from a standard freak to the XL on a shocker RSX. I'm sure results on spool guns of similar operating pressure would be similar, but whether it would be worth the cost of the upgrade is a personal decision.
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Try it on same gun and see velocity change
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Old 10-05-2017, 12:09 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Ultimately I don't think it has much effect on accuracy, efficiency maybe since you're taking greater advantage of the gas expansion. I would tend to believe that depending on valve type, dwell, pressure, etc that the optimum control bore length would vary from gun to gun, meaning that longer is not always better. In the case of the XL, I believe there was a net gain of 5-10 fps by switching from a standard freak to the XL on a shocker RSX. I'm sure results on spool guns of similar operating pressure would be similar, but whether it would be worth the cost of the upgrade is a personal decision.
if it increased by 10fps that would be pretty huge, worth it in my opinion if you are looking to increase efficiency.

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next time I'm at the field I'll try this, I've got a cocker and an lv1.1, no spool though.
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Old 10-07-2017, 03:33 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I prefer the ball getting out the barrel in one piece. Smaller control bore seems to do that for me, so the XL will never be in my gearbag.
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Old 10-07-2017, 04:12 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I am sure I have written this up somewhere, but I am too lazy to look for it...

A long while back I was experimenting with an Alpha434 Inception style Freak back (Allows you to use an Autococker threaded barrel as a tip) and I combined it with a Freak barrel, yielding a ~10.125" control bore. I used an underbored insert closest to the marker and a slightly overbored insert closest to the muzzle. This yielded a 40 fps increase in my Sniper converted from an old Autococker. Obviously YMMV.

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For a barrel of the same length with an underbore standard insert and a normal front?

Seems cool
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