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Old 02-05-2008, 01:33 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by spymongoose View Post
not to derail this current train of thought, but the translation "to keep us from getting married" or "to keep us from staying married" is humorous and oddly approriate for our paintslinging hobby... lol
Hmm...that is true. By the way, Spy, what the heck is that thing in your avatar?
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Old 02-10-2008, 04:46 AM   #23 (permalink)
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ne conjuge nobiscum
ne coniuge nobis cum
ne: lest, that not, in order that not.
coniuge:sing., abl. by/with a (+abl.), husband, wife. maybe spouse
nobis: (Dative or Ablative plural of Ego) to/for us OR by/with us.
cum: (conj.)when, since, although...(prep.)with (+abl.); next to, at the side of (+alb.)

seems everything is ablative....the dative case is rare and would have more markers indicating it to be dative, cum is also suffixing Nobis another ablative indicator translations are always so yoda.....but at least i can understand latin better than i can translate it, but thats a summarization and not a translation. and it fails you

i must also say that coniuge is not a verb to would of been coniunge

also thinking about what incynr8 posted
Originally Posted by incynr8 View Post
Earlier than that, 1600s they were Irish who left and fought for various other countries:

The Wild Geese shall return
and we'll welcome them home
So active, so armed, so flighty a flock
was never known to this land to come
Since the days of Prince Fionn the Mighty. 17th century.
the best translation is probably

In order that our wives are not next to us

summarization: like the goose that travels to far away places, these soldiers leave their lands to fight, yet always return home much like the wild geese. something the wives of soldiers in 17th century Ireland could probably have related to. And is probably given to them by home front family members

"ne coniuge nobiscum" is probably older from roman lit speaking of centurions who left to fight in wars that would probably be at their doorstep soon enough if they didnt go. I should consult my Gallic Wars or Carthaginian lit on this....its probably in there

OOOOOOOOOH how i miss the days of translating Virgil.........:geek:

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